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China needs Taiwan's chipmaker TSMC more than TSMC needs China
Hotair ^ | 08/17/2022 | John Sexton

Posted on 08/17/2022 9:04:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Taiwan’s TSMC is the world’s leading manufacturer of silicon chips. It controls more than 90% of the world market for high-end chips. That’s obviously one reason China would love to see a “peaceful reunification” with the mainland happen, since it would effectively put China in charge of the pinnacle of the tech industry overnight. But as appealing as that might be, the reality is that TSMC isn’t dependent on China in the same way Germany is currently dependent on Russian energy.

Pelosi’s itinerary included a visit with Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company, the world’s largest and most critical chip manufacturer. Its products are an integral part of everything from consumer products to military aircraft.

But just 10% of TSMC’s revenue comes from China, according to the company. More than half of its revenue comes from the United States.

“As we speak, the status quo is that these chip companies may not be as dependent on China as the other way around,” said Patrick Chen, head of research for CLSA in Taiwan.

The truth is, no part of the world is in a position to do without the chips that TSMC supplies. And that may be one thing that is actually protecting Taiwan from an invasion. Because the reality of an invasion would lead to a disruption to the supply of chips that would cause a global downturn in the economy.

“If you look at the secular demand drivers, cloud infrastructure, electric vehicles, next generation of industrial facilities, they all require chips that are made at TSMC,” said Mehdi Hosseini, senior tech hardware analyst at Susquehanna.

“If, God forbid, TSMC’s fabs in Taiwan cannot operate, I think the global economy would slow down more so than what Covid did [to growth],” he said.

Even in some kind of best case scenario where China used soft power to take over the island, similar to what it did in Hong Kong, the end result would still be a disruption of supply. The company’s chairman explained why:

Speaking to CNN this month, TSMC chairman Mark Liu said any invasion would render the company’s factories “non-operable.”

“This is such a sophisticated manufacturing facility,” he said. “It depends on real-time connections with the outside world – with Europe, with Japan, with the U.S. – from materials to chemicals to spare parts to engineering software diagnosis” – all of which would be cut off during a military conflict.

TSMC may make the world’s most advanced chips, but as I explained here, the machines that make those chips are produced by one company in the Netherlands (ASML) using components and expertise from many other free countries around the world. The moment China seizes Taiwan by force, TSMC’s ability to purchase those machines or even have them serviced by experts from abroad ends immediately. How long could China keep them operating? A few months? Maybe a year or two at best?

And that’s assuming Taiwan doesn’t embrace the “broken nest” approach to discouraging such an invasion. The idea behind that paper from the Army War College was that Taiwan could vow to destroy assets such as the TSMC foundry if the country were invaded, denying China any chance of profiting from the invasion technologically.

The bottom line here is that China continues to put on a good show but there’s no way for them to really win this conflict by force. They could perhaps seize the territory but they can’t seize the assets because Taiwan’s leadership in chipmaking is entirely dependent on continued cooperation with the free world.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; chips; taiwan; tsmc
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1 posted on 08/17/2022 9:04:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry China. Taiwan Chipmakers are ‘seeing other people’ as is their right!


2 posted on 08/17/2022 9:07:22 PM PDT by lee martell ( )
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To: SeekAndFind
All those jobs used to be in the USA. What a shame....

Tariffs.

3 posted on 08/17/2022 9:08:29 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: SeekAndFind

I hope the plants are rigged for instant destruction in the event of a Chinese invasion.
And make sure China knows it.
Yes, we need to be making our own since they have become an indispensable national security item.


4 posted on 08/17/2022 9:20:07 PM PDT by Ex gun maker. (Free thinking is now a radical concept, I will not be assimilated by PC or EV groupthink!)
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To: Ex gun maker.
we need to be making our own

We need to get the never-to-be-sufficiently-damned EPA out of the way of making our own.

5 posted on 08/17/2022 9:22:09 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Ex gun maker.

It appears China has been wooing the youth with some success.
Around half now accept reunification with mainland China as the new masters.
Same lies communist always use.
You would think that with a common language and cross border visits the folk of free Taiwan should know better.


6 posted on 08/17/2022 9:34:08 PM PDT by Ex gun maker. (Free thinking is now a radical concept, I will not be assimilated by PC or EV groupthink!)
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To: SeekAndFind

If idiot ChiComs hadn’t taken over there could be TSMC’s all over China and China would have been a rich and prosperous nation decades ago.


7 posted on 08/17/2022 10:26:06 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Ex gun maker.

“It appears China has been wooing the youth with some success.
Around half now accept reunification with mainland China as the new masters”

No.

I’d insult your intelligence but I feel sorry for you to know so little.

Why would you ever think this. It’s the exact opposite.


8 posted on 08/17/2022 10:28:42 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

Several articles on election results over the past few years that have been posted to this very site.
No I do not archive every dismaying article I read.
I enjoyed my visit to Taiwan back in the 80’s.


9 posted on 08/17/2022 10:31:45 PM PDT by Ex gun maker. (Free thinking is now a radical concept, I will not be assimilated by PC or EV groupthink!)
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To: Ex gun maker.

You’re way off.

Almost zero support for any unification with China, especially among younger people.


10 posted on 08/17/2022 10:56:41 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

OK, then numerous past reports on this site are way off.


11 posted on 08/17/2022 11:01:43 PM PDT by Ex gun maker. (Free thinking is now a radical concept, I will not be assimilated by PC or EV groupthink!)
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To: Ex gun maker.

I have no idea what reports you’re talking about.

Here’s one that is representative and has a 30 year overview.

https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2020/07/05/2003739375

Rest assured. Taiwanese do not want to join China. The few that do don’t want to join PRC.


12 posted on 08/17/2022 11:08:09 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

I did not save them over the years, just remember them.
I am all for “One China”, as soon as Taiwan takes control.
Not likely but the best outcome.


13 posted on 08/17/2022 11:17:18 PM PDT by Ex gun maker. (Free thinking is now a radical concept, I will not be assimilated by PC or EV groupthink!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Key sentence in the excerpt: “Pelosi’s itinerary included a visit with Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company, the world’s largest and most critical chip manufacture”

Pelosi just checking up on how secure her investments are.


14 posted on 08/17/2022 11:42:10 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bfl


15 posted on 08/17/2022 11:43:31 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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To: SeekAndFind

TSMC is building a plant in Arizona. It takes a long time though.


16 posted on 08/18/2022 4:03:55 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

Long? No amount of time is too long to ensure economic self sufficiency and security.


17 posted on 08/18/2022 4:06:38 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va
All those jobs used to be in the USA. What a shame....

TSMC is currently building a group of multiple billion dollar chip plants here in the US (Arizona).

18 posted on 08/18/2022 4:21:07 AM PDT by Go Gordon
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To: EEGator

Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) has begun construction on its US$12 billion semiconductor fabrication facility in Arizona. The company is also reportedly considering building a similar chipmaking plant in Germany. The Arizona plant will produce the latest-generation 5-nanometre chips, with production expected to start in 2024.
TSMC starts construction of US$12 billion plant in Arizona

www.theasset.com/article/44414/tsmc-starts-construction-of-us-12-billion-plant-in-arizona


19 posted on 08/18/2022 4:23:27 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: central_va

If you think I meant long as in not worth it, your mind reading skills are off. I own stock in TSMC. By long, I mean China has a couple years to make a decision with regards to Taiwan. Having a plant in Arizona is not very good without the personnel, intel and technology.


20 posted on 08/18/2022 4:28:42 AM PDT by EEGator
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