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To: BobL
Just who were "the now-liberated areas of Ukraine" liberated from?

Here is an excerpt from Strategy Page one of the better independent military analysis and comment websites:

The main propaganda problem for the Putin strategy is the growing opposition of civilians in Russian occupied Ukraine. Currently Russia is trying to find enough local collaborators to allow convincing propaganda videos. This effort is disrupted by the widespread and often violent resistance to the occupation, local collaborators and efforts to stage a fake election. Russian efforts to cut occupied areas off from the outside world have been energetic but not enough. Replacing Ukrainian cell phone service with Russian based service is not enough. Civilians will risk arrest and worse by keeping their Ukrainian cell phones to collect and smuggle out videos of what is really going on. This includes threats, sometimes carried out, to cut electrical service and access to clean water. Threats were made to yank children from families and send the kids to Russia as hostages. The Ukrainians realize that if they can get video evidence of such threats or actions out, the Russians will be forced to back down. For many people inside Russia these tactics are not acceptable, especially when so many Ukrainians obviously see the Russian troops as invaders, not liberators. This has turned many Russians against their own government. This is nothing new as it happened in 1991 and several other times in the last century. Bad behavior by aggressive Russian governments is the main reason NATO exists and Ukraine wants to join it.

106 posted on 08/13/2022 10:39:09 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

“Here is an excerpt from Strategy Page one of the better independent military analysis and comment websites:

The main propaganda problem for the Putin strategy is the growing opposition of civilians in Russian occupied Ukraine. Currently Russia is trying to find enough local collaborators to allow convincing propaganda videos. This effort is disrupted by the widespread and often violent resistance to the occupation, local collaborators and efforts to stage a fake election.”

Truth.
The Russian population is & has been against the war in Ukraine.


107 posted on 08/13/2022 11:49:24 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention in Putin's invasion)
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To: Rockingham

“Here is an excerpt from Strategy Page one of the better independent military analysis and comment websites:”

“Independent” - LOL. The guy who runs it Dunnigan, is a CONSULTANT for the State Department and DOD. What do you expect him to say (if he wants to feed his family)?

Anyway, the world will soon see what the people there want once they hold their referendums next month.

Of course the UN is welcome to observe - but they won’t, so not Russia’s fault if the people there vote anti-Globalist.


109 posted on 08/14/2022 5:39:36 AM PDT by BobL (The Globalists/Neocons desperately want Ukraine to win...makes it easy for me to choose a side)
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