Posted on 08/08/2022 2:23:21 PM PDT by SpeedyInTexas
80k dead Russians is a good start!
Including 10’s of thousands of Ukrainian civilians
Odd accusation, considering the mountain of videos, still images, and combat footage of Russian equipment right in the middle of residential areas for months now - with Ukrainian drones trying to not hit civilian structures while trying to destroy Russian armor... Or the first couple of months of this war, when Russia was simply leveling hospitals, schools, parks, etc that at the time did not harbor Ukrainian equipment and fighters (other than wounded). Funny how Amnesty Internationally (you know - the same Leftist fools who attack the US for the death penalty applied in the most heinous crimes...)
What I find interesting about your post... is that it claims more Ukrainian troop casualties than they supposedly have in total of their armed forces... So even with the mandatory draft/service being in place.... the numbers just seem no more plausible than the crazy numbers supposedly of Russian troops dedicated to the Ukraine campaign.
I am going to assume you mean well, but you are very poorly informed about all of this.
First of all, Ukraine had 600,000 troops at the beginning of the war. (They actually claimed more; but experts have used the 600,000 figure.) They were not all deployed initially; but they have done 8 mobilizations since the war started and have added reserve troops continually as their losses mounted. They also have increased the age for mandatory service to 70. They have also begun to require registration for women and currently have 1,000 women deployed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNzh7EoxyD4
Larry Johnson:
The covert action part let me just give you some context. I joined the CIA in September of 85. I was in what was called the Career Trainee program and that program was designed to bring in a select group of new CIA hires and give them a complete overview of everything and what the agency did and as part of that we were given 8 week internships where we went to different parts of the organization. In my case I was put into the AF/AN task force. This was the directorate entity operate that was running the covert action in Afghanistan when the Soviets were there.
The unit I was working with our job was to create video tapes and plant magazine stories and then create a narrative and my one contribution then was we had T-shirts printed up that were passed out on the beaches of Monte video and Punta del esta. And it showed all these forlorn children refugees, women and it said, “These children can’t go home for Christmas.” Now apart from the fact they are Muslim and didn’t celebrate Christmas, the point was we’re putting that message out there. They’re newspaper articles being planted and the one newspaper guy hated the CIA, he was convinced the CIA was behind everything and yea, we were putting stories in his magazine he didn’t realize were from us.
But, there is that narrative; but you reach a point that you can’t keep putting lipstick on the pig and and telling them it is Marilyn Monroe because the reality emerges and that’s the thing that has been frustrating me from the outset on this. They kept saying the Ukrainians are doing this, the Ukrainians are doing that and this era of social media....where’s the evidence? Because you can find ample evidence on social media on the Ukraine side of the bodies being buried....the horrific casualties going back. You don’t see that on the Russian side. And they try and say, “That’s cuz Russia is a totalitarian society. And as I increasingly try to remind at least Americans, on my side of the pond, we’ve got more political prisoners than Russia so spare me that sanctimonious bulls__t about “America the free” and “Russia the Dictatorship.” We’ve flip-flopped. It’s almost the exact opposite.
So what we face now is we have not seen since the start of the conflict on the 24th of February....we’ve not seen an armored unit of Ukrainian forces backed with infantry moving towards a particular objective and Russian troops running with their hands in the air in the opposite direction. Haven’t seen it! That to me is the tell. You know, all that Ukraine has at this point is they are hunkered down in their foxholes; they’ve got artillery they’re lobbing that; they’re shooting some missiles, but they have yet to organize an offensive. I know you’ve said it yourself....you keep hearing them saying that there is going to be a counter offensive and it you had a dollar for every time they have said that you would be a wealthy man.
But, we’re not seeing that so it is unfortunate that our military intelligence and our civilian intelligence have become so compromised that they are not able to sit down and actually tell the cold hard truth that Russia, in spite of going in with 200,000, maybe 250,000 against 600,000. That is even the reverse of conventional military strategy which says that if you’re an offensive force attacking a defensive force you want an at least 3 to 1 advantage....3 to 1. And in this case the Russians....they go with a 1 to 3 advantage; I mean it is remarkable! When the history of this is written what Russia has accomplished in these last 4 months I think it will be something that future war schools will teach because nobody in history has done this!
Again, you are misinformed. There are hundreds of first hand reports on the internet from the residents of Mariupol who have said that they were forced to stay in their homes (in the basement) while Urkrainian (Azov) forces set up their firing positions in their homes with the hope that would deter Russia from firing on them. They wouldn’t even let them leave because they were using them as shields.
They have ALL come out and said the Ukrainians fired on THEM.
And Amnesty International hates Russia (always has.) But, the war crimes the Ukrainians engaged in routinely got to be more than their consciences could tolerate.
Here is a youtube video from Patrick Lancaster who has spent the whole war going from place to place and interviewing the people and seeing firsthand what Ukraine did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlokJAUKhFE
Mariupol Residents Accuse Ukraine Of Firing On Civilians
There is much more of his work and the work of others on the internet. You can continue to believe the carefully prepared narrative of our Deep State and their accommodating media or you can begin to do some real research into the truth about this war for “democracy.” Your choice.
And you are also wrong about how Russia has fought this war. They have tried to avoid civilians unless troops are firing at them from civilian structures (which they usually are.)
Yes - because “internet reports” from the Russian occupied territory, with the most prolific propaganda machine in the world says so.
I will be sure to let my personal acquaintances who were in Miripol at the time know they misinformed me. Do you have an actual name that I can share with them to thank you for informing them they were wrong?
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