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The Turkish drone making mincemeat of Putin’s army: Bayraktar TB2 is so loved by Ukraine’s soldiers that they sing folk songs about it while Russians have announced a £800 reward for any that are shot down
FOR MAILONLINE ^ | 6 August 2022 | ERBIL GUNASTI

Posted on 08/06/2022 8:20:12 PM PDT by dennisw

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1 posted on 08/06/2022 8:20:12 PM PDT by dennisw
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The Bayraktars took on a vital role in the early days of the conflict with Russia, helping to keep Kyiv out of Putin’s reach. They were in play just days after the war began. Most famously, they were sent to destroy Russian fuel trucks, rendering inoperable the tanks that had formed a miles-long military convoy heading towards the Ukrainian capital. The images of beleaguered Russian armoured vehicles abandoned at the side of the road was an early win for Ukraine in the all-important propaganda war.

A crucial characteristic of Turkish drones is that they are nearly invisible to conventional air defence systems. TB-2s drones are able to evade S-300s, the next generation of Russian-developed defensive missile batteries. In Azerbaijan in the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war, Turkish drones were reported to have not only avoided the S-300s, but then also taken them out.

TB-2s were also used to destroy numerous Pantsirs - the Russian-designed anti-missile system that have been the mainstay of defence against Western offensives - in Syria, Libya and Nagorno-Karabakh.

In fact, the Bayraktar is proving so troublesome to Putin’s ambitions, that it has been reported that Moscow is now offering a 50,000-rouble (£800) reward for each destroyed drone. In addition, it has also been rumoured that Russia, with a somewhat unsophisticated drone programme of its own, is eyeing up Iranian drones in order to try to restore the balance in the ‘drone wars’. Whether any deal has taken place is yet to be confirmed.

Of course, Putin would love to get his hands on the Bayraktar, but Turkey will not sell them to Russia. In turn, Moscow has complained to Ankara that it should stop supplying the Bayraktars to Ukraine, but the Turks have insisted that the sales – and in some cases donations – from the manufacturer, Baykar, are private matters between the firm and the Ukrainians, and are nothing to do with the state.

Ankara is of course very happy that a Turkish aerospace firm is proving its worth. Last year, Turkish arms and aerospace exports reached $3.2 billion – £2.7 billion – a new record, with drones a fast-growing part of that success story. In the past two years, Since the TB-2 made its first confirmed kill in April 2016, Baykar’s UAVs have been sold to more than a dozen countries. Turkish-made drones have made such an impact in other active war scenarios, from North Africa to the Caucasus, that they are now considered the major challenger to the United States, the industry leader.

Another benefit of the Turkish kit is that they are cheaper than US or Israeli-made drones. At a meeting of US military personnel, a high-ranking Danish official in attendance made himself a few enemies when he wondered aloud how many TB-2s could be bought instead of one American-built F-35 fighter jet.

Even the most cursory cost-benefit analysis shows that is a no-brainer: With an F-35 costing around $80 million and a Bayraktar costing no more than $2 million, you get forty times more aircraft for your money, and they are far easier to replace and maintain than a fighter jet and its pilot.

Despite their cheapness and effectiveness, the Russians are getting their own back at the Bayraktar. The Russians shot down their first drone in March, and of course they would have scrutinised the wreckage and identified the frequency it uses and its telltale electromagnetic signatures, meaning that the Russians would be better able to target the drones, as well as being able to jam signals to them.


2 posted on 08/06/2022 8:21:25 PM PDT by dennisw
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3 posted on 08/06/2022 8:33:57 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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One thing for sure. Military strategists are going to study this war, it’s going to change a lot of military strategies.


4 posted on 08/06/2022 8:35:05 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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It’s good to see that our military was well ahead of the times with it’s use of drones.


5 posted on 08/06/2022 8:38:09 PM PDT by DannyTN
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Gotta get me one as a Chanukah gift.


6 posted on 08/06/2022 8:59:50 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures )
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If this one drone like “the ghost” is winning the war-why are we sending billions in weapons and cash to big Z?


7 posted on 08/06/2022 9:01:14 PM PDT by chuckb87
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I have one of them from twatter that I downloaded.

Quite funny, actually.


8 posted on 08/06/2022 9:05:58 PM PDT by sauropod (Unbelief has nothing to say. Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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Um-hmmm....


9 posted on 08/06/2022 9:07:21 PM PDT by sauropod (Unbelief has nothing to say. Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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UK Daily Propaganda


10 posted on 08/06/2022 9:13:03 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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The National Enquirer puts out more actual news than the Daily Mail, bet.


11 posted on 08/06/2022 10:46:06 PM PDT by cranked
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"Moscow has complained to Ankara that it should stop supplying the Bayraktars to Ukraine, but the Turks have insisted that the sales - and in some cases donations - from the manufacturer, Baykar, are private matters between the firm and the Ukrainians, and are nothing to do with the state."
True. The US does not supply ANYTHING to its troops - beyond Western donations and what it inherited from the Soviet Union and a uniform. Equipment, including the drones, are bought by charity drives and donations from the people in the villages, towns and cities for their sons and daughters.
"TB-2s drones are able to evade S-300s, the next generation of Russian-developed defensive missile batteries"
The S-300 is a decades old system and hardly "the next generation".
"... it has also been rumoured that Russia, with a somewhat unsophisticated drone programme of its own, is eyeing up Iranian drones in order to try to restore the balance in the ‘drone wars’. Whether any deal has taken place is yet to be confirmed."
Now confirmed - spotted on the Front. How many and how effective remains to be seen. They are supposedly being used to hunt HIMARS.
12 posted on 08/07/2022 5:29:39 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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The little
Drone that Could!
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Suck One
General Atomics!


13 posted on 08/07/2022 6:27:05 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (We Are JONAH)
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If the Ukies on the military side had any common sense they’d program one of those things to take out their own civilian leaders and end this senseless slaughter.


14 posted on 08/07/2022 6:47:12 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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DailyMail.com is the undisputed world champion of clickbait headlines for articles that almost nobody reads.

This one takes the cake.

Turkey is not going to supply weapons to Ukraine that could be used against Russian troops. That would be suicidal stupidity.


15 posted on 08/07/2022 6:54:51 AM PDT by JoeVortex
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You pro-genocide types love killing Ukrainians which continues in the occupied areas. The Ukrainians have to fight. They know what happens when the Russians arrive. Ukraine desires freedom and to survive as a country.


16 posted on 08/07/2022 6:56:19 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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The Ukes have pretty much given up the Donbass by moving troops to Kherson and the Russians actually are preparing for a big push.

The Daily Mail touts other people’s weapons like they are actually winning the war.

Oh well


17 posted on 08/07/2022 7:01:10 AM PDT by dforest
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You pro-genocide types love killing Ukrainians which continues in the occupied areas.

When are you window lickers gonna learn that killing Azov nazis wherever they may be hiding is a universally good thing...including their coke head leaders.

Sic Semper Tyrannis!

18 posted on 08/07/2022 8:17:29 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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What a brainwashed babbling murderer you are. You are no better than the Nazis (which do not exist in numbers in the Donbas). You are no better than Hitler’s Nazis. You support genocide against beautiful and innocent people.


19 posted on 08/07/2022 8:25:09 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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Lol..don’t let your profound ignorance get in the way of your impotent rage Remfy.


20 posted on 08/07/2022 8:34:33 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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