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White House Orders US Carrier Strike Group To Stay Near Taiwan Longer Than Planned, Says China 'Overreacting'
Nation and State ^ | 08/04/2022 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 08/04/2022 9:47:49 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 08/04/2022 9:47:49 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Gulf of Tonkin or USS Maine? Pick your poison.


2 posted on 08/04/2022 9:50:56 PM PDT by LukeL
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Or Lusitania.


3 posted on 08/04/2022 9:51:44 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Glad the “adults” are back in charge.


4 posted on 08/04/2022 9:52:02 PM PDT by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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To: SeekAndFind

So...I suspect the Pelosi trip was a ruse to get the ships in place with the seemingly reasonable excuse to protect the very important Speaker of the House.


5 posted on 08/04/2022 9:55:36 PM PDT by ryderann
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I don’t blame China one bit for their reaction. Pelosi does a ballroom dance with the Taiwan Pres. on the Island then she cuts and runs. Same tiptoeing around that was done in Ukraine. Now she’s doing likewise at the DMZ.


6 posted on 08/04/2022 9:56:34 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: SeekAndFind

Was that e3? I think you sunk my battleship!


7 posted on 08/04/2022 9:58:34 PM PDT by Pocketdoor
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Chinese Temper Tantrum.

Ret. General Jack Keene said the US made two mistakes.

1) They should have never announced Pelosi was going until she was already on the ground. This allowed China time to mount a protest.

2) The Biden’s administration announcement that the military did not want her to go sent a message to China that we were divided. Which provided a further incentive for China to make a big deal out of this.


8 posted on 08/04/2022 10:08:07 PM PDT by DannyTN
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Like deciding to kill Zarahiri again, Pelosi going is all just part of a silly propaganda PR campaign to try to turn around Biden’s failure to do anything with his stolen office.

All preplanned, all BS, all to make Biden “Captain at the helm”. Don’t believe a word of it.


9 posted on 08/04/2022 10:18:01 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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Both sides get to do some sabre-rattling. Their leaders look good. On the other hand, if that carrier tries to navigate the strait, it might be too good a target for the chicoms pass up.


10 posted on 08/04/2022 10:27:15 PM PDT by ComputerGuy (H zeavily-medicated for your protection)
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Give Taiwan nukes

Medium and longer range, with mobile launchers.


11 posted on 08/04/2022 10:38:48 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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China is acting like a spoiled toddler. We should mess with them more. Send a carrier group to the Spratly Islands and have crew piss on the beach.


12 posted on 08/04/2022 10:40:49 PM PDT by montag813
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[Gulf of Tonkin or USS Maine? Pick your poison.]


USS Panay.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Panay_incident

USS Mayaguez
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayaguez_incident

USS Pueblo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pueblo_(AGER-2)#Pueblo_incident


Wars don’t happen by accident. The risks and costs are too high. Uncle Sam won’t start a war with Xi. But if Xi is militarily-prepared to take Taiwan, he’ll do it for any or no reason whatsoever. That’s how he cements his place in history.


13 posted on 08/04/2022 11:57:56 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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The provocateur here is Beijing. They didn’t have to react this way to what is completely normal travel by congressional members to Taiwan

You guys! Pelosi is just a congressional member! She totally doesn't speak for the US Administration! The two people above her in the chain of command are literal idiots, but no, she's just a regular congress lady!

These mentally damaged children are playing with nuclear dynamite. The contradictions in the Taiwan political settlement have been wisely left alone by previous Presidents. But these ass-clowns have been dementedly picking at the scab, desperate to start a war in time for the midterms.

They think a conflict with China will be easy to win. Conventionally, they are right. A distant blockade of China is currently unanswerable with conventional means.

The only military way for the Chinese to break the Malacca Dilemna is by directly threatening US naval elements at sea with long-range tactical nukes.

So of course that is what would happen. There are a lot of rungs on the ladder of nuclear escalation , and the lower ones are perfectly survivable. Especially if you have a lot of (what you regard as) excess population, and plenty of Ghost Cities.

'Propitious Clouds', indeed

14 posted on 08/05/2022 12:23:58 AM PDT by agere_contra
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Ship Nanzi Pelosi’s ass back over there and have her clean up the mess she made. Friggin’ retard.


15 posted on 08/05/2022 12:26:18 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The House is supposed to represent the people, not the friggin' Federal government. )
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The same folks that provoked a war in ukraine to force regime change in Russia is back in action.
Either china paid hunter and Nancy’s drunk husband to do this… or china is not playing nice with soros and Obama. Alternatively, it could be for the same reason they started a war in Syria and Ukraine.. European pipelines.
The democrats are using these conflicts to gain power here. Every dem I know blames Russia Russia Russia for inflation. The gush over bidens strong actions to control it.
We are losing with oz and all the other Rinos being shoved down our throats. Rinos vote dem, so why vote for them? Everybody ask how does sc get graham and how does Alaska get murkowski… voting for the lesser of two evils is still evil. Stop doing that long enough and they will stop running them.
Your obedience to vote for groomers and other rinos gives them permission to go further left.


16 posted on 08/05/2022 12:29:37 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with. )
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Has Biden cancelled the tariffs on China yet?


17 posted on 08/05/2022 2:01:35 AM PDT by ballplayer
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Keene is a fool if he doesn’t know that the government is already infiltrated by Chinese spies at a high level. They probably knew Pelosi’s travel plans within seconds after they were confirmed.


18 posted on 08/05/2022 2:09:48 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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2) The Biden’s administration announcement that the military did not want her to go sent a message to China that we were divided.

Good point.

But also - of course - Pelosi flew to Taiwan in a military plane. Help me out if I'm wrong about this, as a foreigner - but this would seem to give her flight to Taiwan even more the character of an offical act of state, sanctioned by the Commander In Chief.

19 posted on 08/05/2022 2:20:09 AM PDT by agere_contra
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Apparently Biden said something like: "Well, I think that the military thinks it's not a good idea right now"

Well MR PRESIDENT you ARE the freaking military.

And you let Pelosi fly to Taiwan in a military plane, floating gently down through the Propitious Clouds like a Leni Riefenstahl movie.

20 posted on 08/05/2022 2:29:28 AM PDT by agere_contra
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