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India’s new hypersonic relies on Russian tech
Asia Times ^

Posted on 08/04/2022 4:35:35 AM PDT by FarCenter

India’s new BrahMos II hypersonic missile may feature technology used in Russia’s Tsirkon hypersonic weapon, a development that will further entrench the two sides’ already deep defense cooperation at a time India faces Western pressure to distance itself from Moscow.

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Veebel mentions that Russia, unlike Western arms exporters, does not attach limitations or preconditions to its arms sales, and has offered several perks to established partners such as Iran, Syria, Algeria, Egypt, and Libya. These have included better-negotiating terms, loans and quicker deliveries that make it beneficial for these countries to purchase arms from Russia over other suppliers.

In the case of India, Sameer Lalwani and others note in a 2021 article in the Journal of Indo-Pacific Affairs that longstanding Cold War-era ties between India and Russia, their converging geopolitical interests, shared views of a multipolar international order, established technical cooperation and Russia’s motives to influence India’s policymakers and defense planners may explain Russia’s unusually generous arms sales and technology terms with India.

They also highlight that Russia has assisted India in several high-level strategic projects, such as refurbishing India’s Vikramaditya carrier and constructing the Arihant, India’s first nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine (SSBN), which forms the underwater component of India’s strategic nuclear deterrent.

BrahMos 1 missiles on display in an Indian parade. Photo: Facebook Considering these previous bilateral accomplishments, the Brahmos II may be no exception to this pattern of high-level military cooperation, building on established mechanisms with the BrahMos I supersonic cruise missile.

Veebel further notes that one of Russia’s strengths is exporting proven weapons systems, which while substantially less advanced than those of Western manufacturers, are still considered good enough for contemporary conflicts in the developing world.

In terms of hypersonic weapons, defense analyst Alexei Ramm notes in a 2022 Izvestia article that US hypersonic weapons may be overly complex, noting the two-stage design of the weapons, which consequently requires the integration of multiple subsystems. This time-consuming process requires a large number of expensive tests.

He also notes that Russia’s Tsirkon hypersonic weapon does not require a second stage to function. He ventures, the design simplicity and reliability of Russia’s Tsirkon is likely a significant factor in why India has chosen to cooperate with Russia in developing its BrahMos II hypersonic missile.


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1 posted on 08/04/2022 4:35:35 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

It’s not really new and has been around for a few years.


2 posted on 08/04/2022 4:37:16 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: FarCenter

The world is changing. Thank you for posting this informative article.


3 posted on 08/04/2022 4:39:31 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Prayers for America.)
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To: DarthVader

Mach 2.8 is also not “Hypersonic”

1950’s engine technology is all that is needed for a Mach 3 engine.

No Supersonic Combustion is required.


4 posted on 08/04/2022 4:41:15 AM PDT by UNGN
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To: sauropod

Important


5 posted on 08/04/2022 4:43:22 AM PDT by sauropod (Unbelief has nothing to say. Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: DarthVader

The BrahMos II is a new missile which is still in the design/prototype stage. It is much smaller than the BrahMos (I), which uses a more primitive design and is only supersonic, and which has been around for a number of years as you point out.


6 posted on 08/04/2022 4:56:15 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: UNGN

You’re thinking of the BrahMos (now presumably the BrahMos I). From the Wiki (should still be fairly reliable for non-US topics):

BrahMos-II or BrahMos-2 or BrahMos Mark II (note:Not to be confused with the BrahMos block II) is a hypersonic cruise missile currently under joint development by India’s Defence Research and Development Organisation and Russia’s NPO Mashinostroyenia, which have together formed BrahMos Aerospace Private Limited. It is the second of the BrahMos series of cruise missiles. The BrahMos-II is expected to have a range of 1,000 kilometres (620 mi; 540 nmi)[1] and a speed of Mach 8. During the cruise stage of flight the missile will be propelled by a scramjet airbreathing jet engine.[2][3]


7 posted on 08/04/2022 4:57:41 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: FarCenter

Sad to think that Russia could have helped us with the technology (we failed our last test)...but instead we needed to start a war in Ukraine.


8 posted on 08/04/2022 4:58:04 AM PDT by BobL (The Globalists/Neocons desperately want Ukraine to win...makes it easy for me to choose a side)
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To: FarCenter

India is not our friend. They have been subverting our IT workers for years. We need to cut back immigration from Pakistan and India.


9 posted on 08/04/2022 4:59:51 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: UNGN

BrahMos-II does mach 8 not mach 2.8.

Where did you get that number, the word mach is not in this article.

Hypersonic is more than mach 5


10 posted on 08/04/2022 5:02:00 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: BobL

You are hallucinating as per usual. Hallucinating, but still entertaining.


11 posted on 08/04/2022 5:02:23 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

“You are hallucinating as per usual. Hallucinating, but still entertaining.”

You might not be aware, but the Russians are scoring DIRECT HITS on targets in Ukraine with their hypersonics, while we’re still trying to figure out how to get them working.

After all, there’s a reason that NATO hasn’t tried directly engaging them there.


12 posted on 08/04/2022 5:04:43 AM PDT by BobL (The Globalists/Neocons desperately want Ukraine to win...makes it easy for me to choose a side)
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To: FarCenter

Russia has said they would be allied with China if there is conflict with the US.

Where will India be?


13 posted on 08/04/2022 5:06:09 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (We live in a time where intelligent people are being silenced so stupid people won’t be offended)
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To: BobL

How many have they fired off in Ukraine? 4 or 5 or whatever. So what. Their real value is hitting Europe.


14 posted on 08/04/2022 5:08:28 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

“How many have they fired off in Ukraine? 4 or 5 or whatever. So what. Their real value is hitting Europe.”

Not true, but how many do we have? How many in production?

(you can look it up if you don’t know the answer)


15 posted on 08/04/2022 5:09:36 AM PDT by BobL (The Globalists/Neocons desperately want Ukraine to win...makes it easy for me to choose a side)
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To: BobL

The Russkie Antonivskyi railway bridge in Kherson got hit again last night. Your Russkie barbarians have been awful quiet lately, with all their ammo dumps getting blown up. Anyways, doom on them.


16 posted on 08/04/2022 5:12:19 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: BobL

I am aware that we are failing in hypersonics.


17 posted on 08/04/2022 5:13:07 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

“Your Russkie barbarians have been awful quiet lately, with all their ammo dumps getting blown up.”

Why bother with you, you seem to ONLY rely on Western sources. No need to both with you Brits on this.


18 posted on 08/04/2022 5:13:43 AM PDT by BobL (The Globalists/Neocons desperately want Ukraine to win...makes it easy for me to choose a side)
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To: dennisw

“I am aware that we are failing in hypersonics.”

That was my point. We didn’t do crap while other countries did the basic research needed for hypersonics. It would have been better to have good relations with Russia and use some of their results...but we instead chose to GREATLY WEAKEN our military, and then start wars with Russia and now likely China.

I have a lot of trouble understanding this ‘strategy’, as any rational country would have armed-up first.


19 posted on 08/04/2022 5:18:47 AM PDT by BobL (The Globalists/Neocons desperately want Ukraine to win...makes it easy for me to choose a side)
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To: BobL

No ammo = no action! Bwahahhahahah!


20 posted on 08/04/2022 5:19:11 AM PDT by dennisw
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