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Ukraine soldiers can't complain about Western weapons
youtube ^ | Gonzalo Lira

Posted on 08/01/2022 2:49:00 PM PDT by ganeemead

US weapons fragile, expensive, and not up to the job

Lira talks about US in recent decades replacing good weaponns with BS weapons, e.g. replacing the A10 with the F35 ("flying pig")...


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1 posted on 08/01/2022 2:49:00 PM PDT by ganeemead
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To: ganeemead

F Ukraine and Russia.


2 posted on 08/01/2022 2:54:45 PM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: ganeemead

Beggars and moochers can’t be choosy


3 posted on 08/01/2022 2:55:27 PM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it 🤪)
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To: ganeemead

A-10???? WTF.


4 posted on 08/01/2022 3:01:15 PM PDT by southernerwithanattitude (New and Improved Redneck!)
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To: ganeemead
LOL The F35 has a new bomb holding 8 independently targetable 100lb guided munitions. That's the equivalent of 10 Excalibur 155mm projectiles with far greater range.

I have to thank Vlad for generating enough orders from foreign countries to drop the F35s per-unit cost so much that we can now buy hundreds of them.

The HIMARS seem to be doing a good job in the Donbas, and they and the Harpoons seem to have driven the Russian Black Sea fleet out of Crimea. And this is only a tiny part of what we could equip the Ukrainians with.

5 posted on 08/01/2022 3:02:34 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: ganeemead

We’d see whom is “fragile, and not up for the job” if we stopped payment on the 68 billion we’ve sent.


6 posted on 08/01/2022 3:04:10 PM PDT by Salty Longshanks
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To: ganeemead

That guy in the youtube is too un-serious and acting like an showoff rather than someone with a message he thinks is important for us to hear. I don’t even like the way he’s dressed.


7 posted on 08/01/2022 3:05:05 PM PDT by cymbeline
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To: pierrem15

HIMARS is getting hype because hype sells weapons. One cannot complain about that too much — unless one faces the reality that most buyers do so with US loaned money. This is why India tends to be such a big deal — they pay their own bills. But they don’t buy American.

To know what is happening in Ukraine you have to do several things. 1) Ignore anything from the Ukraine MoD not confirmed by the Russian MoD 2) Ignore anything from the Russian MoD not confirmed by the Ukraine MoD. 3) Ignore everything from any British source whatsoever. 4) Ignore everything from the Pentagon and US MSM. 5) Most particularly, ignore all bloggers and vloggers.

About the only thing we have to work with is the battle maps. They appear from several places. The reason they have value is if you look at Ukraine vs Russian MoD maps, they seldom disagree by more than a few hundred feet. Not even miles.

That’s it. That’s all we have. The rest is crap.


8 posted on 08/01/2022 3:12:55 PM PDT by Owen
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To: cymbeline
That guy in the youtube is too un-serious and acting like an showoff rather than someone with a message he thinks is important for us to hear. I don’t even like the way he’s dressed.

Why I refuse to watch YT videos posted as information. 20 minutes to get 30 seconds of info about the clickbait headline. All "Hey, look at me!" Of course, most posted articles are the same way anymore.
9 posted on 08/01/2022 3:15:04 PM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: pierrem15

I have to thank Vlad for generating enough orders from foreign countries


Wait until they see the list of bugs and the very low combat readiness of that super expensive dog.

Older article - there is a recent one, but I can’t find it at the moment:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3975970/posts


10 posted on 08/01/2022 3:31:59 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Owen
I agree to a certain extent, especially about details. But there are a few points stand out:

1) the incredibly poor performance of the Red Army and Russia's air force. Russia ought to have been able to force a capitulation by this point but has not;

2) After the initial attacks, the Ukrainians have defended with greater determination and skill than anyone seemed to expect;

3) both sides at the moment seem to lack the ability to advance and in some places the battles seem to resemble the great artillery duels of WWI;

4) Neither side has the capability of waging operational scale maneuver warfare. I wonder if we have also lost that skill.;

Point 3 I think has made both sides hesitant to press more offensives as the losses are horrendous. The Russians seem determined to keep what they have gained and the Ukrainians seem determined to take it back. We are gradually escalating both the quantity and quality of the weaponry we are supplying, but there is a hurdle to be crossed regarding logistical support and repair if we start giving Ukraine armored vehicles or aircraft that is difficult to go over. A negotiated settlement will have to be reached at some point, but will not be possible until one side or the other side (or both) are exhausted.

11 posted on 08/01/2022 3:34:50 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: PIF

It’s been the same with every new major combat aircraft I can think of. I’m old enough to recall when the press called the F16 and F15 pieces of junk.


12 posted on 08/01/2022 3:43:30 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: ganeemead

Gonzalo Lira is still alive??? I thought the Ukies captured and tortured him to death.


13 posted on 08/01/2022 3:47:00 PM PDT by max americana (Fired leftards at work since 2008 at every election just to see them cry. I hate them all.)
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To: ganeemead

This guy is an idiot. He prefaces his video by saying Ukrainian soldiers have been forbidden to complain about foreign weapons then uses the A-10 and F-35 as examples, of which neither have been used in Ukraine and 99.9% of Ukrainian soldiers have never seen.


14 posted on 08/01/2022 4:03:14 PM PDT by GaryCrow
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To: pierrem15
2) After the initial attacks, the Ukrainians have defended with greater determination and skill than anyone seemed to expect;

No doubt, however how many of these units are commanded/augmented by NATO troops?

1) the incredibly poor performance of the Red Army and Russia's air force. Russia ought to have been able to force a capitulation by this point but has not;

This entire Russian operation has been surgical. No carpet bombing cities, no tactical nukes, no major infrastructure destruction, etc. Will they take off the gloves? It may depend on how far they are pushed.
15 posted on 08/01/2022 4:06:34 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: ganeemead

VERY INFORMATIVE video, thanks for posting!


16 posted on 08/01/2022 4:10:29 PM PDT by BobL (The Globalists/Neocons desperately want Ukraine to win...makes it easy for me to choose a side)
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To: cymbeline

Yes he’s an idiot clown.


17 posted on 08/01/2022 4:19:48 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: BikerJoe
20 minutes to get 30 seconds of info about the clickbait headline.
18 posted on 08/01/2022 4:33:11 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: pierrem15

All of your points are exactly what propaganda wants you to believe.


19 posted on 08/01/2022 4:34:52 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Owen

OK I will go to you next time I don’t want to know anything. Twitter is good on Ukraine if you can sift through it.


20 posted on 08/01/2022 4:37:07 PM PDT by dennisw
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