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Manchin says he has health, energy, tax deal with Schumer
The Associated Press ^ | July 27, 2022 | By ALAN FRAM

Posted on 07/27/2022 2:34:22 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: rfp1234

Nope. He was paid off, and his daughter is the head of a pharmaceutical company which will benefit. As always, follow the money.


61 posted on 07/27/2022 6:29:42 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. H.L. Mencken)
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To: NorthMountain

Fuel ain’t cheap for his yacht.


62 posted on 07/27/2022 6:30:14 PM PDT by abbastanza ( )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Big retirement buyout, for 75 year old Manchin?


63 posted on 07/27/2022 6:54:46 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Zhang Fei

Don’t lecture me on my own Senator (who is a whore, a scumbag, and Schumer’s butt boy) ... it’s really unbecoming.


64 posted on 07/27/2022 7:06:25 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yea, a Dem. nuff said. Never trust one of them.


65 posted on 07/27/2022 7:11:07 PM PDT by Digger
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To: NorthMountain

[Don’t lecture me on my own Senator (who is a whore, a scumbag, and Schumer’s butt boy) ... it’s really unbecoming.]


No lectures intended. I’m just saying it’s a mistake to think everyone means what he says or says what he means. That goes double for politicians, who have to deal with large numbers of constituents, each of whom has his own particular hobbyhorse.

You think he’s a rabid right-winger who’s selling his soul for cash. I think he’s a principled and rabid left-winger who lies to stay in office. IMHO, he’s a liar not a whore. If he were a whore, who’d do anything to stay in office, he’d just switch to the GOP, whose positions are diametrically opposed to everything he’s voted for since taking office.


66 posted on 07/27/2022 7:19:40 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei
You think he’s a rabid right-winger who’s selling his soul for cash.

No, I don't. In fact, I have more than once warned out-of-staters to cut it out with the "Manchin should become a Republican" nonsense. That would be a disaster. He uses his position as a pretend moderate to extract something (money, IMO) from Schumer et. al., before bending over for them. IOW, he's a whore.

IMHO, he’s a liar

That, too.

he’d just switch to the GOP,

Not on his bank account. He uses his position as a (fake)"moderate" and "maverick" to enrich himself.

These are things you don't get by just looking at his ACU rating. If you actually lived here, you'd see the subtext of his perfidy.

BTW, you won't see me opining and pontificating on Arizona Senate or Governor elections. I don't live there.

67 posted on 07/27/2022 7:32:43 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

[Not on his bank account. He uses his position as a (fake)”moderate” and “maverick” to enrich himself.]


What’s your impression about the mechanics of this enrichment (i.e. how the payoffs are made)?


68 posted on 07/27/2022 7:37:37 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; All
"[...] on health care costs, energy and climate issues, [...]"
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Neither post-17th Amendment ratification Schemer or Minchin seem to understand (blatantly ignore?) that the states have never expressly constitutionally given the feds the specific power to deal with what are actually state power issues mentioned in the OP imo.

In fact, regardless what FDR's state sovereignty-ignoring activist majority justices wanted everybody to believe about Congress's Commerce Clause powers (1.8.3) when they wrongly decided Wickard v. Filburn in Congress's favor imo, both President Thomas Jefferson, in a State of the Union address, and Justice Joseph Story had previously volunteered a lists of example government powers that aren't included in either of Congress's General Welfare or Commerce Clause powers.

The ultimate remedy for Schumer and Manchin's unconstitutionally big federal government oppressing the people under its boots...

Patriots need to start working ASAP with their Trump-endorsed, MAGA patriot candidate lawmakers for 2022 to put a permanent stop to unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes that Congress cannot reasonably justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers, also stopping federal interference in the affairs of the sovereign states. The states can do this imo by effectively “seceding” ALL the states from the unconstitutionally big federal government by repealing the 16th (direct taxes) and 17th (power to vote for federal senators) Amendments.

Once unconstitutional federal taxes are stopped then the states will ultimately find a tsunami of new revenues (imo) that the states can use to increase teacher salaries, also salaries of police and fire departments, also maintain infrastructure for starters.

Insights welcome.

In the meanwhile, Trump's red tsunami of patriot supporters are reminded that they must vote twice this election year. Your first vote is to primary career RINO incumbents in federal and state governments. Your second vote is to replace outgoing Democrats and RINOs with Trump-endorsed patriot candidates.

Again, insights welcome.

69 posted on 07/27/2022 7:49:49 PM PDT by Amendment10 ( )
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To: Zhang Fei

We know that his family is invested in the “Epi-Pen” company, and that favorable regulation allowed them to jack up the price and profit handsomely.

Beyond that, his constituent email newsletter is always brags about bringing federal money to WV for various projects. I suspect there is graft involved ... it seems to be quite common for congressthings.

BTW, back when he was Governor, he was moderate-conservative. NRA gave him an A+ rating, and Governor Manchin actually deserved it based on his actions in office. His horrible leftist record as a senator is quite a departure from his record as a governor. He completely sold out to Schumer.


70 posted on 07/27/2022 9:22:21 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

[We know that his family is invested in the “Epi-Pen” company, and that favorable regulation allowed them to jack up the price and profit handsomely.

Beyond that, his constituent email newsletter is always brags about bringing federal money to WV for various projects. I suspect there is graft involved ... it seems to be quite common for congressthings.

BTW, back when he was Governor, he was moderate-conservative. NRA gave him an A+ rating, and Governor Manchin actually deserved it based on his actions in office. His horrible leftist record as a senator is quite a departure from his record as a governor. He completely sold out to Schumer.]


Thanks for the local color. I’m gonna guess he has chosen to retire.


71 posted on 07/27/2022 9:44:52 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Fightin Whitey

WHAT did Manchin GET??? A chance to LIVE???


72 posted on 07/28/2022 2:03:56 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

“Politicians aren’t born. They are excreted”.

-— Cicero -—


73 posted on 07/28/2022 11:42:53 AM PDT by rfp1234 (Comitia asinorum et rhinocerum delenda sunt.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Violation of equal protection clause.


74 posted on 07/29/2022 8:06:11 AM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: AlanSC

Did he get his mansion on the beach?


75 posted on 07/29/2022 8:17:48 AM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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