In the Ukraine conflict, Putin is defending no Christian values: To cast one's support to Putin based on a dislike of George Soros or Joe Biden and all the decadence they have foisted on the West is a big mistake

American Thinker ^ | 07/19/2022 | Mike Konrad

[circlecity]

“Principles require that if you have them, you stand on them whether it causes you to suffer or not.”

yet there are none at stake here.

[libh8er]

ISIS, and Al Qaeda before them were for “traditional values” too and ISIS were particularly opposed to the gay agenda giving gays the rooftop treatment. Yeah, we should consider them “one of us too” then like we do Putin. Putin is “one of us” because he is fighting the homogloboshlomofomomomo… bogeyman. The idiocy of this is mind numbing. It’s what happens when your knowledge of history comes from reading clickbait conspiracy blogs than studying actual history.

[SaxxonWoods]

Where bystanders like us “cast our support” in relation to this conflict is meaningless.

I simply observe, but those treating this as some kind of Super Bowl can wave pom poms for whoever they like.

[Ultra Sonic 007]

I definitely agree. What strikes me is that, while recently reviewing older posts from 2021 and before, most of the posters tearing each other to pieces regarding their opinions vis-a-vis Russia/Ukraine were practically in lockstep on US domestic issues.

[Ultra Sonic 007]

So sayeth you, but in reality we guaranteed their national sovereignty, a sovereignty that Russia is currently threatening.

If you're referring to the Budapest Memorandum in 1994, it obliged no such thing.

What it did oblige (as far as it could, since it carried no enforcement mechanisms as a treaty would) was for the parties to resort to the UN Security Council.

To this point, as far as I'm aware, the UN Security Council has not authorized military aid or action on behalf of member states to defend Ukraine; so unless you're referring to an entirely different treaty wherein the United States "guaranteed [Ukraine's] national sovereignty", relying on this Memorandum to buttress this claim is without merit.

[Trumpisourlastchance]

BS. From the American Stinker.

[Albion Wilde]

bump

[Sirius Lee]

Not rooting for Putin to take over the world, but i seriously DGAF about Ukraine.

I Sirius Lee hope that the filthy russians and ukes kill each other. The more, the better.

[Taxman]

Ping

[Socon-Econ]

Ditching Ukraine would not be a mistake. Putin is the lesser evil by far. Putin was forced into into his alliance with China after a constant American media drumbeat of Russia-Russia-Russia. The USA can survive a victory by a Russia fighting in its own backyard, but a victory by the Biden-EU-Davos cabal would greatly strengthen the socialist/LGBT one worlders.

[WMarshal]

To hell with creepy Joe Biden, his pet monkey Bidenistas, and any stupid project they start.

[rusureitflies?]

The best thing that ever happened to Ukraine is the Russian invasion. America=Empire of Lies. So much for the “American Stinker.” Ukraine, the most corrupt country in the world pays everybody to lie. Oh, where does the billions of bucks go? American Stinker maybe. MSM for sure. Congress for sure, the Biden crime family, absolutely.
Are most Americans that brain dead?

[familyop]

The main purpose of Russian propaganda aimed at the people of the USA is to recruit those Americans to support Russian expansionism. The most effective tactic for doing so is to disseminate maniacal conspiracy theories to people who are impaired against logic.

Conservatives don’t support commie/fascist expansionism by demanding that the USA allow an expansion, and Democrats are only presenting weak, halfhearted efforts to block that expansion because of the Democrat Wilsonian tendency.

Historically, the lefties are the ones who allowed a developing world war to approach our doorstep. But now, too many business interests (wealthy political donors) only care about the money that they get today. They don’t care about what will happen tomorrow as a result of the growing monster of commie/fascist expansionism. Like criminals, they refuse to consider consequences and are willfully blind to the future. That goes with the fact that so many of them nowadays start their businesses with debt and run continuously on debt.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: The best thing that ever happened to Ukraine is the Russian invasion.

How so? Are you telling us that an expansionist Russia that takes over a neighboring country is good for that country?

What if Russia continues to the rest of Eastern Europe after Ukraine, would it be the best thing for these countries as well? If so, why?

What’s so good about being under Russia?

[familyop]

"Putin’s actions vis-a-vis the Orthodox church is state-politcally designed to engender the institutional church support for Putin and the state, and nothing to do with 'christian values', which as an assaassin do not exist in Putin. But many in the American 'right' fall for it anyway."

Ezekiel 38. Notice the nations and current affiliations between them. Many of the descendants of those who will eventually attack Jerusalem have spread to countries like ours. Their minds are becoming more overtly consumed with the evil that was more hidden until recently.

Watch for them to move more against Israel to try to steal the credibility that they never had in hopes of controlling the world with it. Russians have already discussed further establishing their religion in Jerusalem, and many others of like mind are beginning to agree with their direction.

About their religion,... Isaiah 43:11

Zechariah 14:9

Malachi 3:6

And in regards to their desire to replace the people of Israel,...

Ezekiel 36:19,24,35
Ezekiel 37:21-22
Ezekiel 44:5,9
Ezekiel 45 (all)
Ezekiel 47:21
Zechariah 12:3
Zechariah 14:12-16
Malachi 3:6,17-18

[ScottinVA]

Hey Frankis4Liberty, you were banned 26 Feb 2022, and were later banned again under a different name. Why do you keep coming back here?

[Ultra Sonic 007]

Notice the nations and current affiliations between them. Many of the descendants of those who will eventually attack Jerusalem have spread to countries like ours. Their minds are becoming more overtly consumed with the evil that was more hidden until recently. Watch for them to move more against Israel to try to steal the credibility that they never had in hopes of controlling the world with it. Russians have already discussed further establishing their religion in Jerusalem, and many others of like mind are beginning to agree with their direction.

Israel has been the most pro-LGBT country in the Middle East for literal years, so some of that evil you speak of has been quite out in the open there.

[familyop]

"Israel has been the most pro-LGBT country in the Middle East for literal years, so some of that evil you speak of has been quite out in the open there."

"...in the Middle East." But homo-activists from countries like ours (especially from drugged up states like Calirado) pushed their "pride" parades on Israel for years long after they were common here.

And that's beside the point. Here's what the real prophets said. Israel belongs to the people of Israel, and our Creator doesn't change his mind (see reference to verses in previous comment). Everyone who struggles against that everlasting decision will be destroyed in the end of days. The people of Israel will be brought into righteousness before then.

Most people on this planet should be reassessing what their religious heritages have brought their societies to.

[familyop]

"Putin was forced into into his alliance with China after a constant American media drumbeat of Russia-Russia-Russia."

Look at the date.

US TOLD TO LEAVE CENTRAL ASIA [Russia & China demand "deadline."]
July 6, 2005
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1437369/posts

[Ultra Sonic 007]

The Old Covenant was superseded by the New Covenant, and those who rejected Christ no longer follow God. Whether it be Jew or Gentile, only those who follow Christ and His Church are the legitimate successors to the Kingdom of Israel.

Besides, the modern nation of Israel is not a creation of God (born from His covenant with the Chosen People), but of man; I don't think it's wise to ascribe the same status to it just because it shares the same name.