Posted on 07/16/2022 6:05:55 PM PDT by Mount Athos
Interesting. Obviously, there are monuments to Kremlin mass murderers all over Russia.
The article has revealed itself to be distorted misinformation, good only as propaganda, and not much good at that.
There is an obvious and major difference.
The statues and street namings of Nazi collaborators and mass murderers in Ukraine happened after 2014.
(see beginning of article)
No one held a gun to their head and made them celebrate such wicked people clamoring for atrocities against minorities.
Contrast this with the soviet union, where almost no one had a choice or say in what Lenin or Stalin did. Those who disgreed were disappeared along with their families.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia
Conservative Polish Prime Minister Duda embraces Zelinsky in friendship. He’s sending 200 Polish tanks, too. Nobody believes your gaslighting nonsense.
Lenin Square in Mariupol, Soviet flags in Dontesk, the Russian Army singing Communist songs including the Soviet Anthem and the Internationale, Putin calling Lenin a Saint, I can go on and on.
Actually, his people were killing Jews.
It’s important to remember you make a deal with a devil - Hitler to kill a greater devil - Stalin. You’re not going to emerge clean! Cutting a deal with Hitler was the only way he was going to get back at Stalin and his minions for killing 8 to 12 million of his people. Killing Russian communists was his sole interest everything else no matter how horrible was in his mind necessary to further that aim. The West was in no position to help him give him another choice certainly not in 1941. He kept his insurgency going up into the mid-1950s. There are similar stories and “unsavory heroes” in the Baltic Republics. Baltic SS veterans used to parade on their independence days. There they aren’t viewed as we would view them. The USSR kept a whole division of KGB\internal security troops in the Baltic Republics up until the USSR fell.
Much of the anti-Russian hatred there and Ukraine you can still cut it with a knife and with good reason. There’s no analog here in our history.
Is this propaganda?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia
Do you think it was an absolute coincidence that this mass murder of tens of thousands of Polish civilians was conducted by units founded by Bandera?
They don’t celebrate him with torch marches in modern Ukraine despite this assocation, they celebrate him often BECAUSE of it.
And realize there are many others far more problematic than Bandera who are celebrated with street names and statues. People who directly participated in the mass murder of civilians. It isn’t just about Bandera.
Yes, KGB Putin deploys Stalinist policy. Deportation of millions of Ukrainians, mass murder of civilians as a military tactic, genocidal ethnic cleansing, war rape, psywar gaslighting attacks, etc. We’ve seen this movie before from Russia many times.
“Killing Russian communists was his sole interest “
Then why did Bandera’s OUN-B troops mass murder tens of thousands of Polish Civilians?
It seems your views aren’t consistent with History.
If Bandera’s troops were exclusively focused on fighting soviets, then why did they spend such huge energy and effort on mass murdering tens of thousands of poles?
Regular Ukrainian units didn’t do this, it was Bandera’s OUN-B units that did it.
Keep in mind, this wasn’t the only minorities in Ukraine that these troops massacred.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia
It seems your views aren’t consistent with History.
It seems you haven’t read a newspaper in 75 years. Poland is Ukraine’s biggest supporter and it isn’t even close. They’ve seen Stalinist filth up close and personal and want no more of this cancer that spreads from Russia.
Meet the leader we (Victoria Nuland, et. al.) installed in the Ukrainian coupe de’ta. And to think this didn’t end up well.
https://twitter.com/Mtruthfacts (video at site)
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david kersten
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Jul 6
Before there was Zelensky there was Poroshenko.
“Our kids will go to schools and kindergartens and theirs will sit in basements.”
No wonder Russia intervened.
“They don’t know how to do anything. And this way is exactly how we will win this war. Because we will have jobs and they will not. We will have pensions but they will not. We will have care for people, kids, the elderly, but they will not. Our kids will sit in schools, kindergartens, but their will sit in the basement.”
A bunch of extremist Ukrainian nationalists tried to drive ethnic Poles out of a region they considered to be Ukrainian.
An atrocity, certainly.
But what does it have to do with Nazism?
Were the Serbs acting as Nazis when they tried to drive the Bosniaks and Croats out of Bosnia?
If you think so, you need a better dictionary.
“Our kids will go to schools and kindergartens and theirs will sit in basements.”
I think about that quote of Poroshenko’s more than any other for this war.
Since Maiden. About 2014
Love it when so-called patriots start citing leftwing publications to forward their latest obsession.
Love it when so-called patriots start citing leftwing publications to forward their latest obsession.
You mean like Wikipedia?
Something is broken within you.
You call the mass murder of almost 100,000 CIVILIANS a mere attempt to “drive them out”.
Maybe you could be public relations for mass murderers.
That’s a clever twist of words to minimize an epic atrocity.
Should people who inspired and participated in mass murders, be celebrated by modern Ukrainians with new statues and street namings?
Is it just “propaganda” if people are concerned about this?
Maybe you could send a letter to the world Jewish congress, explaining that the butchery of various minorities in Ukraine was ok with you since at one point they also allied with the nazis to fight the soviets.
Why can’t they pick heroes who aren’t associated with mass murder?
How about this one?
“L’viv — A memorial plaque to Dmytro Paliiv (1896–1944), co-founder and SS-Hauptsturmführer of the 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1st Galician) aka SS Galichina, unveiled 2007. SS Galichina was formed as a division in the Waffen-SS in 1943; among the formation’s war crimes is the Huta Pieniacka massacre, when an SS Galichina subunit slaughtered 500–1,200 Polish villagers, including burning people alive.”
What do you think?
How about this one?
“Bystrychi and five other locales – A memorial plaque to Taras Bulba-Borovets (1908–1973), the collaborator appointed by the Nazis to head the Ukrainian militia in the Sarny district. Bulba-Borovets’ men organized and carried out numerous pogroms, slaughtering the area’s Jews. In addition to the plaque in his native village, Bulba-Borovets has another plaque in Olevsk, a monument in Berezne and streets in Lutsk, Ovruch and Zhytomyr.”
These are the people they single out for praise and statues
Yes, they were killing Jews:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lviv_pogroms_(1941)
https://web.archive.org/web/20071218141039/http://www.einsatzgruppenarchives.com/hofer.html
Just a couple out of many examples.
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