Posted on 07/16/2022 11:02:57 AM PDT by jdege
“Supporting Moscow remains popular even among too many FReepers.”
It’s the same apparatus that has been in place since the 30’s and fueled the 60’s revolution and new left.
Now they manipulate supposed right wing as much as left.
Same in Oklahoma. There is a statue in one of the local towns that is a replica of the ‘Iwo Jima’ Statue, where the soldier is hoisting a Trump flag up...LOL.
Humphrey won 13 states+DC.
It didn’t help that Democrat George Wallace ran as an independent and split the democrat vote. There was also the antiwar group that held the Vietnam war against him because he was LBJ’s VP. Hard row to hoe there.
“Humphrey was the last non-evil, non-America hating Democrat to win the Presidential nomination.”
So would you say he was the last Classic Liberal?
No, since “Classic Liberal” would mean he was Conservative. He was a big-government supporting left-winger, just not a hardcore Communist (where they were supporting or puppets of foreign communist regimes such as the Soviet Union or Cuba). But he thought of himself as a “good government” type. An example of that was when he defeated an arguably corrupt and mobbed-up Republican Mayoral regime in Minneapolis and busted it up once he got in office.
Unfortunately, a lot of these “good government” types morphed into DC-centered flunkies and putting the underclass on welfare as a “great idea”, which rapidly destroyed the family in the 1960s and onward, especially Blacks, and exploded the crime rate beyond comprehension. Where “liberals” really went bad, and they failed to acknowledge or recognize these policies were extraordinarily destructive, and have remained committed to them to this day and bark the “racist” mantra for why it’s not working “as it should.”
The big question is whether Humphrey would’ve gotten on the more centrist Dem bandwagon had he lived to the 1980s as a sitting Senator under Reagan, or joined with the far-left (Ted Kennedy) to remain committed to those failed and destructive policies.
Thanks for the reply.
I read somewhere that he had been a classic liberal that was for limited government and personal responsibility, etc.
I was a teenager at the time and had other things on my mind so I didn’t really know much about him.
No, definite big government type. He, as many on the left truly believed then, that the federal government could be a force for good. As we’ve had 9 decades to see since FDR took power (or 11 decades, counting Wilson, the first modern Socialist President), that was not the case.
Our RINO Republicans are where Humphrey was at.
The last classical liberal dem President was Grover Cleveland.
For a non-leftist nominee...John Davis in 1924.
Reelect Joe Ball, 1948!!!
What do think of Eugene McCarthy? He hated Carter enough to endorse Reagan.
I noted that Davis, a quarter-century later, had been hoodwinked by the Communist Alger Hiss, and even was a character witness for him at one of his trials (along with Gov. Adlai Stevenson).
Humphrey was a good man from what I know/remember. The Dems have fallen a LONG LONG way (as have many Republicans)
I wasn’t crazy about the MN Senators going back some time (with the lone exception of Rod Grams). Joseph Ball was a flake and endorsed FDR in 1944 over Gov. Dewey, when he had no business running for a 4th term. The other Republican Senator, Ed Thye, wasn’t much better. He signed onto the left-wing RINO manifesto opposing (WI) Sen. Joe McCarthy. Ball, of course, lost to Mayor Humphrey and Thye lost in the anti-GOP 1958 landslide to then-Congressman Eugene McCarthy. McCarthy had a few curious stances after retiring from the Senate, but he was otherwise a doctrinaire left-winger while in office.
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