[Miguk]

Of course Russia has some responsibility and culpability in this conflict.

But after the rout and retreat from Afghanistan, the M.I.C., Pentagon and Democrats/RINOs, needed another Forever War.

So far, this one does not involve direct US troops shooting at Russians. US "mercenaries" CIA spies and operatives and foreign fighters (mercenaries), are arming, training, and providing intel to the Ukrainians. Real-time intelligence gathering and dissemination.

But unless the US is going to become directly involved (and nuclear war soon follows), I don't see the Ukes winning the artillery war. They are not now winning the propaganda war. And Russia has the bodies to occupy the land that was once Ukraine.

And with winter coming soon, blackouts in EU, power outages, rationing (energy and food) already starting, technical difficulties in restarting nuclear/coal plants and the not-soon-enough start times, no amount of gaslighting and propagandizing will fill empty bellys or keep the lights on.

Will it be France, Germany, England, Poland, the Baltics, Scandinavia that blink first ? It certainly won't be Russia.

[MalPearce]

Can’t disagree with that.

Ultimately though - what ideologies in the world hold Russia in check? It’s not the Left, it’s the Right.

What Russia has very skilfully done over thirty years is split the Right, especially in America, into factions that are too busy fighting each other to fight Putinism.

The evangelicals are triggered by Russia building churches and talking piously about family values, while the liberals and the left are undermining those values. But it’s all for show in Russia - with a declining population and a massive brain drain, and the birth rate only rising in the Islamic parts of their territory, who’s going to be attending these churches? If American Christians REALLY think this is a genuine thing, perhaps they ought to relocate.

The constant gaslighting over Zelenskyy doing two skits on telly donkeys years ago that were admittedly a bit faggy, doesn’t quite compute when you consider Biden’s a serially creepy sex pest, Putin’s a tummy-kissing kiddie fiddler (who executed a whistle blower who dared to go public with it), and both of them are up to their necks in Schwab’s NWO.

Ditto Z being disqualified for public office on account of having been an entertainer before going into politics. So was Reagan.

What I’ve never seen a coherent explanation for is, what did Trump ACTUALLY do to put Putin off invading Ukraine? Either he sold Ukraine out and that’s what stayed Putin’s hand, or he made a plausible threat of some biblical reaction. There’s no clear third option.

The only way to give Trump a clear benefit of the doubt is, he deployed the Art of the Deal with a side order of “we’ll kick your ass”.

So common sense would suggest that Biden’s talking tough while dithering on delivery has only encouraged Putin, but Trump’s negotiating style DID deliver results. In effect, the one thing Trump failed to do was keep his own Party and electorate united - he went out of his way to split the Trumpians, TPM and MAGAs from the RINOS... right at the time when the ambitions of China and Russia meant they absolutely HAD to find a way to work togther.

The split in the American conservative community was God’s Gift to Putin.