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To: Prince of Space

“Zelenskyy needs to get to the bargaining table while he still has a country to govern.”

Why would he? The Ukrainians have fought the Russians to a standstill and he’s getting tens of millions in “aid” every month.

He’d be stupid to sit down with Putin.

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6 posted on 07/14/2022 8:06:35 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Lurker

Ukraine reveals pie-in-the-sky negotiation ‘end point’

RT
2022-07-14 19:45:00

kuleba.jpg

Foreign Minister warns of Kiev’s red lines before any talks

Ukraine will not agree to any territorial concessions as part of a peace agreement with Russia, its Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba told journalists on Wednesday. Talks between Moscow and Kiev have been in a deadlock since March.

“The objective of Ukraine in this war... is to liberate our territories, restore our territorial integrity, and full sovereignty in the east and south of Ukraine,” Kuleba said, as reported by Reuters. “This is the end point of our negotiating position.”

Moscow recognized the independence of the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics in the Donbass region shortly before the military operation in Ukraine was launched in late February. Crimea, which was also once part of Ukraine, voted to join Russia in a referendum in 2014 after the Maidan coup in Kiev led to the overthrow of the democratically elected government.

After eight years of Donbass’s ethnic Russians in the being shelled, and attacks of every kind from the West, Ukraine is dreaming that it can force Russia to the negotiating table. The Russians have set their goals, which are disarming and denazifying the country. There will be no stop till they feel those goals have been accomplished. If that means taking and retaining territory, that’s what will happen, no matter how loudly Ukraine screams. Ukraine, blessed with abundant resources and an industrial base courtesy of the USSR, has had 22 years to fashion themselves into a credible country. They botched it completely


12 posted on 07/14/2022 8:12:40 PM PDT by saintgermaine (Saintgermain the time traveler)
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To: Lurker

Ukraine reveals pie-in-the-sky negotiation ‘end point’

RT
2022-07-14 19:45:00

kuleba.jpg

Foreign Minister warns of Kiev’s red lines before any talks

Ukraine will not agree to any territorial concessions as part of a peace agreement with Russia, its Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba told journalists on Wednesday. Talks between Moscow and Kiev have been in a deadlock since March.

“The objective of Ukraine in this war... is to liberate our territories, restore our territorial integrity, and full sovereignty in the east and south of Ukraine,” Kuleba said, as reported by Reuters. “This is the end point of our negotiating position.”

Moscow recognized the independence of the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics in the Donbass region shortly before the military operation in Ukraine was launched in late February. Crimea, which was also once part of Ukraine, voted to join Russia in a referendum in 2014 after the Maidan coup in Kiev led to the overthrow of the democratically elected government.

After eight years of Donbass’s ethnic Russians in the being shelled, and attacks of every kind from the West, Ukraine is dreaming that it can force Russia to the negotiating table. The Russians have set their goals, which are disarming and denazifying the country. There will be no stop till they feel those goals have been accomplished. If that means taking and retaining territory, that’s what will happen, no matter how loudly Ukraine screams. Ukraine, blessed with abundant resources and an industrial base courtesy of the USSR, has had 22 years to fashion themselves into a credible country. They botched it completely


14 posted on 07/14/2022 8:13:41 PM PDT by saintgermaine (Saintgermain the time traveler)
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To: Lurker
Why would he? The Ukrainians have fought the Russians to a standstill and he’s getting tens of millions in “aid” every month.

Some standstill. He's taken a good part of the Eastern part of Ukraine.

He's killing thousands of Ukrainian soldiers every day to the 100s he is losing.
18 posted on 07/14/2022 8:22:32 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Lurker

Globo would kill Z if he didn’t do their bidding.

Oh, yeah. And, the US President killed an entire family in Kabul, Afghanistan because a member of their family was collecting some drinking water for them.

(In an attempt to distract from letting 13 of his finest warriors get murdered on behalf of his mistakes.)


60 posted on 07/14/2022 10:52:43 PM PDT by 13foxtrot
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