Posted on 07/13/2022 6:59:02 PM PDT by rintintin
“Gotta think past 2024.”
2020 still requires resolution.
Would love to see a lemmings leading media thinking trump is going to get the white house and desantis takes the wheel and trump heads the house
And that's always been your cop-out response. But as you may have heard, it is very difficult to prove a negative - that DeSantis didn't say something. When I use Google and do that search, what comes up for me are a bunch of news articles saying that DeSantis has NOT promised not to run for the 2024 nomination if Trump does. Like these:
"Trump was also annoyed, according to the report, that DeSantis did not immediately rule out a presidential campaign despite knowing that Trump was teeing up another White House run."
https://nypost.com/2022/06/20/trump-insists-i-would-win-2024-gop-showdown-with-desantis/
Trump annoyed that Ron DeSantis won't publicly promise not to run against him in 2024, report says
https://sports.yahoo.com/trump-annoyed-ron-desantis-wont-134929450.html But again, it is impossible for me to prove a negative - that DeSeSantis never said what you claim he did. But it would be very easy for you to post an article quoting to Santa's as saying he will not run if Trump does. You just refuse to do so.
My guess is that most of DeSantis' support - and I include myself in this number - are people who did vote for Trump in 2016 and 2020, and would vote for him again in 2024 if he was the nominee. So by definition, we are not Never Trumpers.
We'd just prefer that DeSantis be the 2024 nominee.
Why would Desantis run in '24 against Trump, start an internecine political war, when he could walk into the WH in '28 almost unopposed?
No one was picking Jimmy Carter as President four years in advance. Or Ronald Reagan. Maybe Bush Sr., but not Bill Clinton. Not W. Bush. Not Obama. Certainly not Trump. Predicting shoe-ins for POTUS 4 years out has been a perilous business. If DeSantis has the opportunity and wants to be POTUS, it makes sense for him to strike while he has momentum.
He goes against Trump he will launch an unnecessary internecine political war that he will both lose and his career would be ruined. DeSantis knows that even if some political neophytes don't.
Thankfully it seems like most people are wise to the strategy of trying to divide to conquer. I haven’t heard of anyone who is willing to turn against DJT.
Second, because there is absolutely no reason to believe DeSantis could walk into the White House unopposed in 2028. If a Democrat wins in 2024, they'd be running for reelection in 2028, and it is always harder to beat an incumbent. It is unlikely a Democrat would face the same headwinds in 2028 that their nominee will be facing in 2024.
Third, because DeSantis (and others) May believe that he is the Republican's best chance to regain the White House in 2024. Whether you and others agree with that isn't the point. The question is whether DeSantis and his advisors believe it.
If Trump runs, Trump wins. He got 76 million in '20. And I predict he will get close to 80 million in 2024. If gas is over 6 or 7 maybe more!!! No way the Dems can engineer another 81 million vote steal. '20 was a one-off and they got away with it. They know they can't do that again.
DeSantis goes up against Trump he will be crushed worse the Jeb. He will ruin his career.
How so? Plenty of candidates, including Ronald Reagan, ran for and lost the nomination only to come back in 4 years and win the presidency. There is no reason to believe that if DeSantis lost the nomination to Trump that his political career will be over. After all, he'd still be Governor of Florida I could always come back in 2028.
And if DeSantis won the nomination, that would be a good thing for his political career.
Or is your point that a lot of Trump voters who allegedly love America would sit out the general election and let a Democrat win, just because "their guy" didn't win?
Why fight today when tomorrow you get victory by doing nothing? You want DeSantis to go against Trump BECAUSE YOU CLEARLY HAVE TDS.
On the flip side, DeSantis is doing exactly the same things as does every other politician who has run for re-election in an off year, while still keeping an eye out for a possible White House room. They never issue a flat denial that they're not going to run for President. Instead, they make ambiguous statements such as "I have no current plans to run for President", or "I am focused on being Governor/Senator right now, and am not going to indulge in speculation."
DeSantis is making the exact kind of statements you'd expect the guy to make if you was running for governor, while still planning to run for president in 2024. He just can't say that openly or his opponent would use that as ammunition against him in his gubernatorial campaign.
What in the blue blazes does that even mean? Are you actually claiming that DeSantis, right now in 2024, is guaranteed the Presidency in 2028?? That is utterly ludicrous. Nobody has any clue what the electoral or political situation will be in 2028. Maybe Democrats would have won the election in 2024 and rigged all elections going forward. Nobody who knows anything about politics would guarantee any particular result in 2028. We can't even guarantee a particular result in 2024.
As of right now, 2024 looks to be the best opportunity for Republican in decades. That is the exact reason DeSantis would choose to run now rather than waiting on a far more uncertain future.
Flies buzzing the picnic table, with TDS.
Thanks. I’ve seen him in brief interviews, and he seemed pretty levelheaded.
Yes it does.
You assumption that Trump can win in ‘24 is so out touch with reality I don’t know where to begin. You have TDS. Seek help....
Huh? I never said Trump can win in 2024. I also never said that he couldn't. So I'm having a difficult time figuring out what point you are trying to make here.
Regardless, my view on Trump's chances in 2024 is that he might win, or he might not. It is uncertain.
If that somehow makes me a lunatic in your eyes, I'm actually fine with that.
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