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Conscripts are being given call-up papers on the beaches of Ukraine as Volodymyr Zelensky's army suffers heavy losses
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 9 July 2022 | IAN BIRRELL and KATE BAKLITSKAYA

Posted on 07/12/2022 7:19:46 PM PDT by Mount Athos

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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

When a country is fighting from it’s own soil there is much that healthy old men and females and even the very young can do away from the front lines.


41 posted on 07/12/2022 10:33:36 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Kill a Commie for Mommy, proud NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon.)
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To: rlmorel
Probably not their idea or priority, but rather a price they must pay.

I would not be surprised if codifying gay marriage is one of the conditions the US puts on Ukraine for getting more American aid and weapons.

I’m guessing America makes ‘em fly the rainbow flag if they want any American help, aid or comfort.

Just a guess, of course.

42 posted on 07/12/2022 10:58:19 PM PDT by GBA (Endeavor to persevere)
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To: ansel12

Conscription existed in the American Civil War on the Union side, and as I recall reading history people could pay a certain sum to get out of it. Immigrants fresh off the boat at New York often found themselves in the Army too. There were anti-draft Riots.

There was a draft during World War I as well. That wasn’t very popular either.

“No right to yell ‘Fire’ in a crowded theater” was how a supreme court justice described anti war or anti draft demonstrations at the time. Wilson ran for a second term as president on “He Kept Us Out of War”.


43 posted on 07/12/2022 11:47:33 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Mount Athos

Daily Wochenschau is a blind squirrel which has found a nut for a change.


44 posted on 07/13/2022 12:07:12 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: kiryandil

“neocons are Trotskyites.”

If you mean united only in their opposition to the “bourgeois” Soviet form of Communist rule, perhaps.

IMO, basically, the term “neoconservative” is no longer relevant for contemporary political analysis and significantly out of date! The term neoconservatives used by some is mostly to be construed as a slur word for being the ‘Left.’ By denying others as Conservative, the projection is THEIR group alone deserve to be called the true conservative.

Actually, I believe the umbrella term “conservative” now includes a blending of right-of-center ideologies: neoconservatism, libertarianism, Christian theocrats, paleo-con with some conspirators!!! I frequently see this new conservative alliance demonstrated in discussion comments with fellow freepers.

With our culture sinking to new immoral levels, there appears to be a unity NOW shared with traditional conservative–thought: economic, cultural, secular intellectuals, and religious traditionalists. Conservatism is strongly value-based, good and evil-focused perspective,i.e. the evil of the continuous bipartisan welfare-state expansion. All conservatives want to decrease the federal government and repair the shared balance of powers between the states and federal government as well as restoring the distinctive checks and balances of the Executive, Legislative & Judiciary branches of government.

Anyway, that is my new understanding & I’m sticking with it!
Let us work together to accomplish our national goal for citizens to enjoy freedom & liberty under a responsible government. :)


45 posted on 07/13/2022 1:36:01 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (et, so serving on the front:)
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To: PGR88

I’m visiting at a friends house. His father joined in 40, went to radio school and was assigned to USS Lexungton in 41. After Lexington went down, he was assigned to Yorktown. After Midway he was assigned to an attack transport, and as a radioman he was assigned to a beach masters party at Tarawa. He wanted back on carriers, and ended up as a radioman on USS Fanshaw Bay. Flagship of Taffy 3. He was collecting a message on the bridge to take to the flag office but when he got there there was a large hole where the hull used to be. I found this out when I noticed his retirement plaque from 1956. During the Korean war he served on the USS Monrovia, one of 4 in a class pf APAs. Another in the class was the USS Calvert, the ship my dad served on during the Korean war. So a good friend’s dad and my dad were in the same place, same time, on sister ships. Small world, and we just connected those dots this July 4th after knowing each other for 32 yrs.


46 posted on 07/13/2022 1:41:22 AM PDT by Waverunner
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
Look on the bright side, at least they are not Maoists.
Although Uncle Joe seems to like to sniff younger girls.
Our Great Leader.

47 posted on 07/13/2022 1:52:06 AM PDT by Waverunner
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To: Waverunner

“Our Great Leader”

HA! Totally captures his image!


48 posted on 07/13/2022 2:18:38 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (et, so serving on the front:)
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To: Mount Athos

49 posted on 07/13/2022 3:41:47 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ansel12
our country wasn’t being invaded

Remember Attu and Kiska!

50 posted on 07/13/2022 3:50:27 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I’ve stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains)
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To: GBA

Could very well be true. I am not inclined at all to assist the Ukraine in any way given the people and entities who call themselves allies of Ukraine, including the entire Democrat Party, the Left worldwide, Soros, Trudeau, and the list goes on.

If those people who wish ill on this country are for it, I am against it, because in their calculus it helps them meet their goals in some way.


51 posted on 07/13/2022 4:35:00 AM PDT by rlmorel (Nolnah's Razor: Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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To: ansel12

Your characterization of it as “hauntingly true” is spot on accurate and appropriate.

There is something “haunting” about it, as if war is a stalking beast, and your needs, wants, and desires are completely irrelevant in the scheme of things.


52 posted on 07/13/2022 4:36:30 AM PDT by rlmorel (Nolnah's Razor: Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
this is not “Putin’s war,” this is Biden’s war

needs to be said again
with emphasis

53 posted on 07/13/2022 4:52:34 AM PDT by SisterK (recognize and resist tyranny)
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To: SisterK

NO, Totally disagree.

We may agree that the Biden family is despicable.

The Truth is this is all on Putin

2022 is Putin’s SECOND INVASION!
Putin’s 1st invasion was 2014.


54 posted on 07/13/2022 6:08:19 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (et, so serving on the front:)
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To: GBA

BTW, that is only an electronic petition submitted on-line to Zelenskyy’s office.


55 posted on 07/13/2022 6:10:25 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (et, so serving on the front:)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

then we will have to agree to disagree


56 posted on 07/13/2022 2:22:53 PM PDT by SisterK (recognize and resist tyranny)
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To: SisterK

I value your friendship. I am not following any theorists for my beliefs.


57 posted on 07/13/2022 8:39:34 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (et, so serving on the front:)
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