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Russian Navy takes delivery of Putin's super sub: Largest submarine to be built in 30 years that has enough firepower to take out entire cities and unleash 'radioactive tsunamis' is set to go into service
Daily Mail ^

Posted on 07/10/2022 5:01:50 AM PDT by FarCenter

Belgorod is the biggest sub built in 30 years at over 600ft long and 30,000 tons

Can carry 6 80ft Poseidon torpedoes with up to 100 megaton nuclear warheads

Coastal attack would cause 500m tsunami and 'devastating' radiation spread

Russian Navy chief claimed the sub will be used for scientific research missions

Experts fear sub could sabotage undersea cables with special unmanned drones

Delivered to Russian Navy yesterday after being spotted on surface last month

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Last year Dr Sidharth Kaushal, from the Royal United Services Institute, told The Mail on Sunday he believed the fleet of unmanned underwater vehicles (UUVs) could be of strategic value for President Putin.

Dr Kaushal said: 'The Belgorod is large enough to act as a mother ship for a unique set of smaller vessels which have deep-diving capabilities and the ability to tamper with undersea infrastructure.

'It's well equipped for sabotage and clandestine operations. Its Poseidon nuclear torpedoes could also be a very effective means of attacking an aircraft carrier in wartime – one against which at present no defence exists.

'The Belgorod will not be part of the Russian Navy per se, meaning its covert and aggressive actions will effectively be deniable.

'The submarine appears set up for non-attributable Special Forces warfare with its commanders answering directly to the [political] leadership and bypassing the Russian naval command structure.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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1 posted on 07/10/2022 5:01:50 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

So much BS in one little article.


2 posted on 07/10/2022 5:13:01 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: FarCenter
Will they need a tug submarine to tow her around?

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/russian-aircraft-carrier-towed-home-after-break-down/

3 posted on 07/10/2022 5:22:10 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (The best slaves put their own chains on )
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To: FarCenter

4 posted on 07/10/2022 5:24:12 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: NorseViking

Please explain what exactly is BS.
Easy to call BS when one does not really know one way or the other yeah?

Reminds of this mention made by the former Captain of the USS Dallas:

“We are inclined to overestimate our ability and underestimate our vulnerability.”
https://books.google.com/books?id=Hr-uaYXoyIQC&pg=PT123&lpg=PT123&dq=CDR+Dale+Sykora+we+are+inclined+to+overestimate+our+ability+and+underestimate+our+vulnerability&source=bl&ots=rdgEb_oegQ&sig=ACfU3U2loYP5CJ6T4P_fbN6gfD9lGgUs7g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjW4MKJ1u34AhXRomoFHa5DAhsQ6AF6BAgCEAM#v=onepage&q=CDR%20Dale%20Sykora%20we%20are%20inclined%20to%20overestimate%20our%20ability%20and%20underestimate%20our%20vulnerability&f=false


5 posted on 07/10/2022 5:39:07 AM PDT by cranked
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To: FarCenter

Seems its only a matter of time before some nut pushes the wrong button.


6 posted on 07/10/2022 5:45:16 AM PDT by chopperk
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To: FarCenter

Having been in the military/industrial complex for my entire career, I am not impressed with what I’ve seen of Russia’s equipment in Ukraine. Submarines probably haven’t suffered as much from the top to bottom corruption as, say, the tank army. In the tank army the Russians have failed to incorporate the lessons learned from Afghanistan and the many operations since. Their latest hardware still has the explosive rounds stored with the operators which leads to the blown-off turrets we’ve seen. Part of the reason for that is spending more on yachts than on redesigns as their newest tanks appear to be gussied-up versions of the same old thing.

The idea of an autonomous nuclear-powered torpedo that can cruise for months at enormous depths, which is one weapon carried by this new submarine, is to scare the bejesus out of the West. But this thing probably suffers from the same, I’d-rather-spend-the-money-on-my-yacht-than-design-and-testing mentality of the tanks. Some of the places they may have skimped on testing is the firing mechanism, though there should be a lot of actual men involved in that one...hopefully. But also, the many, many “suicides” and “unexplained” deaths among the officers at Gazprom means their entire society is merely a bunch of Mafia-like people any one of whom could break away and declare himself king. That might be especially easy if you command a submarine that could, in Russian theory, end all life on half a continent. There are so many bad things to think about here that I only hope Russia goes the way of the Soviet Union sooner, rather than later. (A largely peaceful breakup with the West involved in containing the more lethal aspects.)


7 posted on 07/10/2022 5:54:42 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud. Sorry. )
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To: Gen.Blather

Didn’t we have something called CAPTOR which rested on the bottom of the sea and was programmed to attack certain ships based on their acoustic signature?


8 posted on 07/10/2022 6:02:01 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Gen.Blather
If you had paid attention, the Russians have done a lot of testing of a lot of new systems - which we know because the American press loves to chortle over their failures. Not doing thorough testing during development has become an American defense procurement disease because tests often fail and we cannot have failure in our modern acquisition bureaucracy.

Hence everyone chortles over Elon Musk's Specex "falures." Except that testing failures are not failures. They are part of a learning process that only happens when you test and fail, fix it and test again.

The Chinese have also learned to do that. It's the Americans who heed to shut up and get to the hard work of doing stuff.

9 posted on 07/10/2022 6:06:01 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: FarCenter

Does it have a glass bottom so that it can keep tabs of the rest of Russia’s navy?


10 posted on 07/10/2022 6:07:05 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: FarCenter

The Belgorod?

Why not just call it the Kursk 2?

It’s going to the same place, Davey Jones’s locker.


11 posted on 07/10/2022 6:08:24 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: Gen.Blather

I’ve wondered why go to all this bother instead of simply dropping nuclear mines in harbors from commercial freighters, said mines to be exploded on command at a later date.

It may be that underwater mines are relatively ineffective until you get into the 10+ megaton yield range.


12 posted on 07/10/2022 6:22:09 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: Gen.Blather

I am more worried about some “woke” US submarine commander deciding to “end it all”.


13 posted on 07/10/2022 6:25:04 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: FarCenter

“Russian Navy takes delivery of Putin’s super sub: Largest submarine to be built in 30 years that has enough firepower to take out entire cities and unleash ‘radioactive tsunamis’ is set to go into service”

DOESN’T MATTER - We spend 10 times as much on our military than Russia does. Therefore we are INVINCIBLE!!!!


14 posted on 07/10/2022 6:28:42 AM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: FarCenter

“Coastal attack would cause 500m tsunami and ‘devastating’ radiation spread”

The radiation won’t get far, as a wave is a disturbance, rather than the actual movement of the radioactive water. The rest of the claims are likely true.


15 posted on 07/10/2022 6:30:30 AM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: cranked

“Please explain what exactly is BS.
Easy to call BS when one does not really know one way or the other yeah?”

It’s VERY EASY to identify the BS, pal: Since we spend 10 times as much on our military as Russia, that means their submarines CANNOT work. Plus, this article is in the Daily Mail.

That’s good enough for me!!!


16 posted on 07/10/2022 6:33:03 AM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: ealgeone

“Didn’t we have something called CAPTOR which rested on the bottom of the sea and was programmed to attack certain ships based on their acoustic signature?”

That wasn’t one I was involved with and I don’t know about it. However, as you mentioned, it was intended to attack ships. Not continents. Probably not salted with poison that would last for generations as the new Russian device is proclaimed to be.


17 posted on 07/10/2022 6:33:31 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud. Sorry. )
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To: Gen.Blather

Yep, I think you NAILED IT. Because it’s Russian, and we hate Russia, it’s a piece of crap.

Better than my rationalizations at least.


18 posted on 07/10/2022 6:34:53 AM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: AndyJackson

I was involved with the extreme testing of US hardware ranging from Air Force, to Navy to Army. We test the bejesus out of stuff. Often, we test several units to failure. It’s very expensive and time consuming. After spending over thirty years testing, I don’t recall a single one, success or failure, that made the news. I’d take US hardware over anyone’s. As for the Russians, yes, they test a lot. They brag a lot. But they field very little of what they present to the world as “game changers.” (Gosh how I’ve grown to hate that phrase.)


19 posted on 07/10/2022 6:37:30 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud. Sorry. )
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To: cgbg

“I am more worried about some “woke” US submarine commander deciding to “end it all”.”

US systems are interlocked and also use a lot of humans, hands-on and it would require an entire woke crew to do any damage. There are other more pressing things to worry about, like a woke president declaring an end of oil.


20 posted on 07/10/2022 6:39:28 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud. Sorry. )
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