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To: kabar
If you view the invasion in isolation

Yes, I do.

And you should, too.

There was still plenty of room for negotiation before the first tank rolled in.

I don't think it was wrong for us to attack Afghanistan in October of 2001, because they, through their protection of Al Qeada, who attacked us, was an act of war against us.

After they were defeated, we should have LEFT.

The attack on Iraq was wrong. But even so, we took it as far as the UN--famous Colin Powell presentation of weapons of mass destruction. Even so, it was the wrong thing for us to do as it destabilized the entre Middle East. Saddam was keeping the lid on the crazy mullahs and mohamadites.

The "Break it you own it" analogy leading to nation building there was the stupidest thing we did in American diplomacy, ever.

I think the Russians could learn some things from our own blunders.

87 posted on 07/10/2022 8:37:24 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: Alas Babylon!
There was still plenty of room for negotiation before the first tank rolled in.

Yes, and we failed to seek a diplomatic solution. We signed a security agreement with Ukraine in Nov 2021 that essentially poked Putin in the eye. This was done as Putin was massing troops on the border.

U.S.-Ukraine Charter on Strategic Partnership

90 posted on 07/10/2022 8:48:56 AM PDT by kabar
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