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To: BenLurkin

I’f true, the Ukrainian people would have welcomed Russia. They are voting with bullets now. I’d go back further, the fight started Aug 19, 1991.

The pre 2014 government was as legit as Crimea’s and Biden’s. You have to ignore Russian corruption and hyper focus on Ukraine’s in order to justify Russia.

Ukraine has a right to exist and to self determination.

As someone else put it;

“ We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. ”


14 posted on 07/08/2022 9:52:14 AM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Dead Dog

The Ukrainians in Crimea and the so-called Donbas who voted for the pro-Russian government did meet Russian invasion with open arms.


26 posted on 07/08/2022 10:42:06 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: Dead Dog

“I’f true, the Ukrainian people would have welcomed Russia. They are voting with bullets now. I’d go back further, the fight started Aug 19, 1991.

The pre 2014 government was as legit as Crimea’s and Biden’s. You have to ignore Russian corruption and hyper focus on Ukraine’s in order to justify Russia.

Ukraine has a right to exist and to self determination.”

There you go trying to bring reason, logic and facts into a (FR)ee-for-all.


32 posted on 07/08/2022 11:26:16 AM PDT by OSHA
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To: Dead Dog

Eastern and Southern Ukraine have fought with bullets for Independence against Kiev for 8 years. You think they are angry Russia is finally helping them?


39 posted on 07/08/2022 1:08:51 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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