Posted on 07/08/2022 6:17:33 AM PDT by JonPreston
yeah, but you’ll be accuses of being pro putin by the mobility chair keyboard warriors at any moment.
You’re right, this isn’t our business. Is the person who yelled at you on this forum, or somewhere else?
On this forum. A military guy with combat experience. I opted not to engage.
He no doubt is among those who call me a Russian spy. Just know they are wrong and you are right.
Ukraine is losing war; West must immediately stop military aid
Define losing, and who is doing the defining? Losing Donbas is not the major strategic loss the news is making it out to be. It is a political victory for Russia, paid for at much higher cost than Ukraine.
I think Biden & France & Germany never intended for Ukriane to succeed, only to bloody Putin’s nose. If I am right about that, then I think Biden & the leaders of France and Germany are as much war criminals as Putin. They have been running a sham operation while projecting something entirely different to their own people. I think Boris Johnson is out because he plans to reveal this.
Yes, GloboHomo, Soros & Schwab are losing. I could say more, but I won’t.
Yes, the Ukes are Liberal World Order cannon fodder and our cheerleaders willing dupes for their cause.
These things don’t just materialize out of a vacuum. Let’s look at some statistics: Russia has a population of about 146 million, and it’s shrinking. Russia encompasses about 1/8 of the earth’s habitable land mass, and is extremely rich in natural resources.
To the east of Russia lies a country with nearly 10 times its population, and is blessed with far less natural resources and a much smaller land mass for its large population. I wonder if some people in this country are watching as Russia struggles militarily with Ukraine and thinking things might just be ripe for the taking.
While many people in the world are talking about the coming together of Brazil, India, China, and Russia to present a serious challenge to the USA, perhaps the folks running China might be thinking that with the absorbtion of much of Russia they might not need anyone else to supplant the USA as the preeminent power. Just a thought.
The rat hole is not full yet. Go ahead western countries. Pour even more of your people’s money down it. Its sure to fill up this time! Really!
Absolutely! Because the dirty politicians could use the money.
Any even slightly sensible person knew Ukraine could never win this conflict. Nato knew it, US and Europe knew it. Most of all Zelensky knew it.
A corrupt, tyrannical, nuclear armed super power, with one of the most powerful militaries in the world attacks the poorest county in Europe, to steal it’s resources, killing 100,000+ people and there are those, on this site, that cheer them on.
So no money to stop the invasion to our south but billons to Ukraine.
No
Agreed, it's terrible what we did to the Serbs.
Yes, that was evil and so is this.
Republicans need to get the message that base isn’t going to support pouring billions into a hopeless war in Ukraine all to prop up the failing “liberal world order”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNzh7EoxyD4
Larry Johnson:
The covert action part let me just give you some context. I joined the CIA in September of 85. I was in what was called the Career Trainee program and that program was designed to bring in a select group of new CIA hires and give them a complete overview of everything and what the agency did and as part of that we were given 8 week internships where we went to different parts of the organization. In my case I was put into the AF/AN task force. This was the directorate entity operate that was running the covert action in Afghanistan when the Soviets were there. The unit I was working with our job was to create video tapes and plant magazine stories and then create a narrative and my one contribution then was we had T-shirts printed up that were passed out on the beaches of Monte video and Punta del esta. And it showed all these forlorn children refugees, women and it said, “These children can’t go home for Christmas.” Now apart from the fact they are Muslim and didn’t celebrate Christmas, the point was we’re putting that message out there. They’re newspaper articles being planted and the one newspaper guy hated the CIA, he was convinced the CIA was behind everything and yea, we were putting stories in his magazine he didn’t realize were from us.
But, there is that narrative; but you reach a point that you can’t keep putting lipstick on the pig and and telling them it is Marilyn Monroe because the reality emerges and that’s the thing that has been frustrating me from the outset on this. They kept saying the Ukrainians are doing this, the Ukrainians are doing that and this era of social media....where’s the evidence? Because you can find ample evidence on social media on the Ukraine side of the bodies being buried....the horrific casualties going back. You don’t see that on the Russian side. And they try and say, “That’s cuz Russia is a totalitarian society. And as I increasingly try to remind at least Americans, on my side of the pond, we’ve got more political prisoners than Russia so spare me that sanctimonious bulls__t about “America the free” and “Russia the Dictatorship.” We’ve flip-flopped. It’s almost the exact opposite.
So what we face now is we have not seen since the start of the conflict on the 24th of February....we’ve not seen an armored unit of Ukrainian forces backed with infantry moving towards a particular objective and Russian troops running with their hands in the air in the opposite direction. Haven’t seen it! That to me is the tell. You know, all that Ukraine has at this point is they are hunkered down in their foxholes; they’ve got artillery they’re lobbing that; they’re shooting some missiles, but they have yet to organize an offensive. I know you’ve said it yourself....you keep hearing them saying that there is going to be a counter offensive and it you had a dollar for every time they have said that you would be a wealthy man.
But, we’re not seeing that so it is unfortunate that our military intelligence and our civilian intelligence have become so compromised that they are not able to sit down and actually tell the cold hard truth that Russia, in spite of going in with 200,000, maybe 250,000 against 600,000. That is even the reverse of conventional military strategy which says that if you’re an offensive force attacking a defensive force you want an at least 3 to 1 advantage....3 to 1. And in this case the Russians....they go with a 1 to 3 advantage; I mean it is remarkable! When the history of this is written what Russia has accomplished in these last 4 months I think it will be something that future war schools will teach because nobody in history has done this!
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