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The next financial hammer to fall: Public pension funds
https://thehill.com ^ | 06/28/22 | BY MERRILL MATTHEWS

Posted on 06/29/2022 9:36:26 AM PDT by RomanSoldier19

The public pension situation could get really messy in the near future.

There are currently about 300 state-administered and nearly 6,000 locally-administered public retirement plans, according to PublicPlansData, a project of the Center for Retirement Research at Boston College and the MissionSquare Research Institute.

Those public pension systems have 14.7 million workers (e.g., state and local government employees, teachers, police and fire departments) and 11.2 million retirees.

Collectively, those systems had some $4.5 trillion in assets at the end of 2021. After six months of stock and bond market declines, those assets have likely dropped significantly, putting public pension plans in financial stress.

It’s a pattern we’ve seen over and over again. Public pension systems, often pressed by government employee unions, underfund their plans and overpromise their returns. Like a Ponzi scheme, those systems can get by when the markets and the economy are good.

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1 posted on 06/29/2022 9:36:26 AM PDT by RomanSoldier19
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Expect to get further fleeced so they can get more income when not working than I ever got working.


2 posted on 06/29/2022 9:43:44 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: RomanSoldier19
Time to implement Carrousel.


3 posted on 06/29/2022 9:44:29 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: RomanSoldier19

The prices of houses have shot up, so property taxes have often soared.


4 posted on 06/29/2022 9:46:33 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: RomanSoldier19

and 99% of the people receiving these pensions or in line to receive these pensions voted for zhao xiden- oh well....


5 posted on 06/29/2022 9:47:40 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Of course, lefties, maybe even many conservatives, will demand a taxpayer bailout.

This is the mother of ticking time bombs.


6 posted on 06/29/2022 9:48:41 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: RomanSoldier19

I have no sympathy for government employee pension plans. They never seem to have any repercussions when there is a market downturn, unlike the private sector that rely on 401k. I am willing to bet most government workers vote Democrat, so they should feel some impact from their voting habits.


7 posted on 06/29/2022 9:49:08 AM PDT by kaila
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This has been a known problem and FRAUD for nearly 40 years. I am sure the big CPA firms and various three-letter agencies will say, “We had no idea.”
A bunch of poor schmucks (a/k/a taxpayers) will get tagged with the bill.


8 posted on 06/29/2022 9:49:30 AM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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we will loose our house and property if the taxation gets any worse....that is their aim....

non public employees would be stunned to find out how much these people make and how much they draw when they stop "working"....

9 posted on 06/29/2022 9:49:40 AM PDT by cherry (;)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Most of the systems have promised too much for decades.

Public employee pension payouts should be in line with Social Security payouts for proper legal equality as I believe is required by Amendment XIV.


10 posted on 06/29/2022 9:49:54 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: RomanSoldier19

Since they are playing golf and working from home and contributing nothing, I would recommend, firings and pension claw backs.


11 posted on 06/29/2022 9:53:00 AM PDT by samadams2000
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To: RomanSoldier19

Public sector pensions are immoral. Government will take the last dollar, from the last taxpayer - at the point if a gun, in order to pay people not to work.


12 posted on 06/29/2022 9:57:36 AM PDT by wny
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To: Honest Nigerian

Ever since about 1974 the problem of pension financing has been well known.


13 posted on 06/29/2022 9:57:39 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: RomanSoldier19

What $4.5 trillion in assets?


14 posted on 06/29/2022 9:58:03 AM PDT by Jonty30 (I would sell my family for a billion dollars and then buy them back when go on clearance.)
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To: wny

‘immoral” and unconstitutional

Public pensions may run afoul of Amendment V, since paying people not to work has no financial benefit to those forced to pay property tax.


17 posted on 06/29/2022 10:03:32 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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> Most of the systems have promised too much for decades.<

Yep. Traditionally, retirement pay was something like half-pay. That was pretty much enough. Folks had their homes paid off, and their kids were out on their own.

But then governments started using pension formulas such that an employee could easily retire at close to (or even over) regular pay. Such a system is bound to collapse sooner or later.


18 posted on 06/29/2022 10:05:11 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: RomanSoldier19
Pensioners agreed to work being given specific pension terms & conditions. Many pensioners paid into their pension with the promise that their employer would contribute as well. In the boom years many governments chose not to put in their share. Similar but not the same is how govt handled the SS trust fund. They spent the surplus. Cursing the pensioner is cursing the wrong person. Governments that over-promised and mismanaged funds are the culprit.
19 posted on 06/29/2022 10:05:13 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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“often pressed by government employee unions”

Collective bargaining duties run in both directions.


20 posted on 06/29/2022 10:05:15 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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