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1 posted on 06/28/2022 4:31:45 AM PDT by FarCenter
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I think Ukraine will lose its Eastern half to Russia, but the west needs to drag this out.

Another loss for Biden will hurt him in the mid-terms, so the goal is to keep things going until after the election where they can agree to Russia’s demands.


2 posted on 06/28/2022 4:38:05 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being manipulated by forces that most do not see)
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Putin’s email to us this morning noted that some of the inexperienced Ukrainians now fighting are not doing so in a coordinated manner, so his boys are noting incidents of friendly-fire where one group of Ukrainians opens fire and takes out another group of Ukrainians. Pretty scattered so far, he tells us, but they didn’t see their earlier in the war.


3 posted on 06/28/2022 4:41:02 AM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: FarCenter
Ukraine will receive units of the NASAMS air defense system from the US, a networked medium to long-range surface-to-air missile defense system.


4 posted on 06/28/2022 4:41:28 AM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: FarCenter; anyone

WW1 was being compared to this conflict yesterday in a discussion in terms of how a small potential war became a world war due to political pacts etc.

Anyway just a coincidence but today is the anniversary of Archduke Ferdinand assassination.

https://www.onthisday.com/people/franz-ferdinand


7 posted on 06/28/2022 5:08:28 AM PDT by Phoenix8
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To: FarCenter

zelensky is a fool.
if he is not careful he will get the west involved in a euro world war


22 posted on 06/28/2022 6:13:42 AM PDT by mylife (It looks just like a telefunken U47... (===)
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But talk of ending the war by winter with Ukrainian forces emerging victorious and having regained the ground now lost seems a stretch by any count. That Zelensky talks that talk is understandable but is hardly realistic.

Biden's proxy war is marching Ukrainian soldiers to their death. Biden's open borders are killing people with fentanyl and also killing people encouraged to cross, like the 47 in TX yesterday. This is an outrage. In Winter he will be killing Americans who can't afford to heat their homes.

23 posted on 06/28/2022 6:19:14 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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“The UGS needs to…..pull out troops, collapse the salient and withdraw to a more defensible perimeter.“

This would’ve been a wise decision weeks ago when the commanders on scene asked to do this very thing. But now? Well let’s just say “that ship has sailed.”

Honestly I do not know who is making Uke high level war decisions, but they are not very good at it. Pulling back in war time is not always a bad thing….but Uke leaders seem to think it is better to let their forces be surrounded than moving one step back. I often wonder if all the Uke armies are called the 6th.


40 posted on 06/28/2022 7:51:48 AM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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Russian Forces 'Increasingly Hollowed Out' in Ukraine—U.K. Intel

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-war-putin-troops-hollowed-out-mod-kremenchuk-1719734

50 posted on 06/28/2022 10:46:38 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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