Posted on 06/27/2022 4:50:02 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
RE: Do you mean which authors, or which news organizations?
You said you trust FR. So, which news source or authors posted here in FR do you trust?
Nice try on deflection. You seem like a typical Russian propaganda worker. You use the typical talking points, and make the same arguments, like trying to claim the story is false because it was reported by major media.
And then you say "western journos are too afraid to even go to Kiev, let alone where the rocket strikes are happening" which is a flat out lie, easily disproven by 2 minutes of google searching. You can watch reporters from places like the BBC, Reuters, and even CNN making video reports from the front lines. You can even watch video of them taking cover during artillery and rocket attacks.
You may be a dunce in some cubicle in Russia, or somehow think spreading Russian propaganda is a good idea, but you might as well just admit the Russians have such poor technology, or targeting ability, or are just plain terrorists, that they bombed a shopping mall. That's what happened, and anyone can see the photographs and videos from the scene for themselves on Telegram, Twitter, and other places.
Which translated into English means "I made up the whole story about the jamming"
You either fell for the Russian propaganda or are a Russian propaganda department worker. That ridiculous story was refuted yesterday.
You can watch the arrival of the two missiles and the explosions on a surveillance camera video from a nearby park. The shopping center got hit first. Then the factory.
Not surprisingly there were not the kind of secondary explosions associated with a hit on an ammunition storage area. Take a look at the video Run Russian Run I posted to see what happens when a missile aimed at a real ammunition depot hits its target. Watch what your Russian buddies do after about 6 minutes into the film. Run like little girls away from a hornet's nest.
Or the same kind of metal building used by Ikea, Home Depot, Best Buy, and other stores of that type.
🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡And yesterday while western media was crying about shopping mall, we immediately said that the blow in Kremenchug was inflicted on Kredmash (Warehouse being used to store weapons supplied by NATO), and the Amstor shopping center was hooked by an explosive wave.
Here is the confirmation. Kredmash is completely destroyed while the shopping mall still stands
I am a lawyer in Palm Beach County, FL who recognizes that there are more sources of information to be examined before you can arrive at a reasonable conclusion about the truth. If you can’t be suspicious of western media with coordinated stories about events happening where they have no eyes or ears on the ground, andcwho are being fed by patently biased (Democrat Party) sources, then I can’t help you.
Wrong. The amount of footage captured by these media entities from the "front lines" is 0 minutes and 0 seconds. If you want to waste your time to support your statement be my guest. I'm not biting on that waste of time.
My comments on this thread are focused on Kredmash plant in Kremenchuk. Which is the focus of this thread. Obviously, there is no western media with their reporters on the ground at that location. Nor will there ever be because the plan is to give Elensky a platform to speak about Russian war crimes to G7.
The photos and video make it clear that the rocket attack was at the Kredmash plant - where there is a substantial crater. Do you think that a weapon substantial enough to be loaded at the tip of a precision guided missile would be so small as to leave the shopping market structure standing without an impact crater? Please dude - just make good use of that dunce cap you say you have there.
I don't need any western media sources to know what is going on in Ukraine, I look directly at local sources. And I look at satellite photos and other objective evidence.
You are making the same mistake, intentionally I suspect, as the people who rely on biased sources. You just choose to rely on the Russian equivalent of the DNC talking points memo and Keith Olberman.
*** Or the same kind of metal building used by Ikea, Home Depot, Best Buy, and other stores of that type. ***
Maybe we have different building codes where I live. The ones here are cement block or tilt-wall concrete construction.
Victor David Hanson, Tucker, Townhall, Babylon Bee (heh), OAN, Breitbart, the palmieri report, some substack authors, and a few more.
Try again, if you really are a lawyer I hope you specialize in traffic tickets and not anything important.
From what is probably one of your favorite publications, Tass, located in Russia.
Reuters confirms two of its journalists were hurt in Ukrainian army’s shelling in Donbass"
Here is another example, a video that you can watch to learn about the real world, not your fantasy of it. Sometimes it is hard to accept the real world, but if you try you can.
You apparently never studied how explosive weapons work. In the case of a building strike and for many fusing designs the goal is detonation above the surface to maximize the effects of the explosive payload. Digging up dirt is not what missiles are designed to do.
A warhead which detonates above the ground is often the goal, and a dumb impact triggered fuse will be triggered by the roof impact. When the warhead detonated on the missile that hit the mall it was not at ground level, and in any event the mall has a concrete floor.
When you seen large craters that is usually the result of a detonation at ground level on dirt or thin asphalt, or hits by weapons designed to penetrate concrete.
There isn't much left of the shopping center, its weak wall structures and roof blew out leaving some steel sections still standing.
The impact of the second missile near the factory did create a crater, probably because it just missed the side of the building. Note how the blast overpressure destroyed a section of building next to the crater. It is unlikely that the concrete floor under the rubble is significantly damaged.
Sorry, but you are simply wrong.
Good list. What if they’re opposed to each other as in the wisdom of the USA supporting Ukraine in this war with Russia?
Good. I hate going to the mall. Bomb the test.
Whatever
They’re entitled.
Ivan winning, hugey, nice load of captured western arms….
You won’t see this on western MSM.
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