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To: LibertyWoman

Try to collect on this one. The “red flag” laws have yet to be tested in court, in regards to the “due process”. The person subjected to the effects of this law STILL should have the opportunity to confront the accuser, and the process of seizing firearms should still have to meet the test of whether a clear and present danger does in fact exist.

NOT just because some neighbor does not like somebody possessing firearms.


19 posted on 06/24/2022 2:59:20 PM PDT by alloysteel (There are folks running the government who shouldn't be allowed to play with matches - Will Rogers)
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To: alloysteel

Too bad for the guinea pig who gets to challenge it all the way to the USSC.


23 posted on 06/24/2022 3:07:20 PM PDT by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: alloysteel

Look at what has happened to many of the arrested January 6 protestors.

1). Imprisonment for over a year without bail, many for minor offenses.

2). Denial of right to a speedy trial.

3). Inhumane conditions in prison. Poor food, denial of medical care, abuse by guards, unsanitary conditions. Essentially they are receiving punishment daily.

4). Biased, hostile judges overseeing trials and openly expressing contempt for the defendants.

5). Government withholding evidence from defense attorneys.

6). Many assigned weak or incompetent public defenders.

7). Most receiving maximum sentences even in plea deals.

Due process is already dead in this country. Republican politicians are silent on the violation of the due process rights of the January 6 prisoners. Not a whimper from them when swat teams stage predawn raids on nonviolent people accused being arrested for nonviolent crimes with press cameras rolling outside (Manafort, Roger Stone).

George W. Bush’s Patriot Act, permitting secret courts and widespread surveillance of American citizens, was the tipping point in the evisceration of constitutional protections. Today the legal system is corrupt, politicized and weaponized. Prosecutors can already purposefully use the legal system, and detainment without trial to force guilty pleas from average citizens who can’t afford expensive top notch defenders and years of legal maneuvering. Red Flag laws are simply codifying activity that already occurs.


48 posted on 06/25/2022 1:18:37 AM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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