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To: 1Old Pro

The way I read the ruling, it sounds like it goes much farther than just the New York rule. It says individuals have a constitutional right to self defense with a gun outside the home. That would seem to me to strike down pretty much every restriction or licensing scheme for concealed carry nationwide.


10 posted on 06/23/2022 7:45:00 AM PDT by apillar
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To: apillar
it sounds like it goes much farther than just the New York rule. It says individuals have a constitutional right to self defense with a gun outside the home.

Could be, can't wait for the scholars to comment on it. This is pretty much just breaking.

12 posted on 06/23/2022 7:46:01 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: apillar
The way I read the ruling, it sounds like it goes much farther than just the New York rule. It says individuals have a constitutional right to self defense with a gun outside the home. That would seem to me to strike down pretty much every restriction or licensing scheme for concealed carry nationwide.

Unfortunately, I don't think we now have nationwide Constitutional Carry.

The order of the court in this case was to remand to the lower court and rule based on this opinion. Which means that the State of New York will be directed by the Appellate Court to issue concealed carry licenses to Petitioners Brandon Koch and Robert Nash, and by extension to anyone else who otherwise meets the New York criteria to obtain an concealed carry permit, without having to meet New York's "special needs" provision.

37 posted on 06/23/2022 7:59:59 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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Yes, I agree. It took me over six months to get my CC permit in NY years ago and it came with severe restrictions—target shooting and hunting only. This is a GREAT day for our Constitution and for New Yorkers who have had to beg for their Constitutional rights. I would say that this ruling now makes possible 50 state permit reciprocity.

Thank you, Justice Thomas! You just smacked down all of the evil bastards in New York including Cuomo (and his POS father), Hochul, Eric Adams, and every other leftist, gun hating elected moron in the state.


50 posted on 06/23/2022 8:09:24 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (Silence in the face of evil, is itself evil. Dietrich Bonhoeffer)
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To: apillar

I read the ruling and that’s what is seems to say.


75 posted on 06/23/2022 8:28:27 AM PDT by Jonny7797
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To: apillar
The way I read the ruling, it sounds like it goes much farther than just the New York rule. It says individuals have a constitutional right to self defense with a gun outside the home. That would seem to me to strike down pretty much every restriction or licensing scheme for concealed carry nationwide.

Providing the licensing is not restrictive....which is up for interpretation.

I want to use this to push for national reciprocity where a CCW issued in one state is valid in all 50, just like a marriage license.

80 posted on 06/23/2022 8:30:54 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being manipulated by forces that most do not see)
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To: apillar

The 6 States that have “may issue” a conceal license, will be under this ruling. The rest that have “shall issue” are constitutional.


90 posted on 06/23/2022 8:39:46 AM PDT by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: apillar

A U.S. Supreme Court decision applies to all states and all jurisdictions.


91 posted on 06/23/2022 8:39:51 AM PDT by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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To: apillar
That would seem to me to strike down pretty much every restriction or licensing scheme for concealed carry nationwide.

Expect to see the price of holsters go up in the short term.

98 posted on 06/23/2022 8:55:54 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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Yes, as I read it this means “may issue” laws are unconstitutional all across the fruited plain.


116 posted on 06/23/2022 10:13:49 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I’ve stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains)
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To: apillar
The way I read the ruling, it sounds like it goes much farther than just the New York rule. It says individuals have a constitutional right to self defense with a gun outside the home. That would seem to me to strike down pretty much every restriction or licensing scheme for concealed carry nationwide.

You'd think so, but in the wonderland that the court lives in, it is perfectly reasonable to 'license' people to carry, or have all kinds of other insane crap related to firearms. Barrett actually somes out and specifically notes in her concurrence that it does not affect such schemes.

The decision is a good start, but the court could, and should have gone a lot further than it did. Frankly, I think the court should have done so with the Heller opinion.

127 posted on 06/23/2022 11:38:54 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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