Juneteenth: Bill Nye 'Science Guy' schooled after posting about America's founding and slavery

Fox News / Yahoo News ^ | 6/20/2022 | Lawrence Richard

[Republican Wildcat]

Slavery was very sparse in all of those states and outlawed not long afterward.

Nice revisionist history, however, and responding to arguments not being made.

[Republican Wildcat]

Would the south have been more advanced and more economically developed if it never had slavery? I find the claim ridiculous, but think what you want. If it was so harmful, they could have stopped at any point. But year after year they continued, supposedly against their own interests. I guess the keyboard warriors of 2022 knew more than the people actually there at the time what was best for their interests.

Reality is not something that is debatable. You pretty much push the Leftist narrative of historical revisionism.

It is reality that slavery stifled innovation - where it was absent, commerce flourished due to innovation, and of course a free market labor force. This is hardly unknown to anyone with even a cursory knowledge of the history of how agriculture flourished in the North through technological innovation and remained stuck in time in the South as they continued to rely mainly on manual labor (and their belief in a master race destined to rule the inferior races - as is clearly written without any ambiguity in their resolutions of secession, stump speeches of their leaders, etc). Whereas you just make it up as you are going along even though all of the evidence of what you are claiming is to the contrary - what exactly is the point of that? Just to argue for the sake of arguing?

[Mount Athos]

I didn’t push anything at all.

You are hallucinating.

“you just make it up as you are going along”

What did I make up?

You are hallucinating.

[Lee'sGhost]

Yeah, but if everyone started saying that’s what it is, their little heads will explode.

[NorthMountain]

Put it on pay-per-view. I’d watch that.

[Leep]

Is what he says his own words or is someone else scripting what he says..?

Lefties seem to all parrot the same narrative and/or other leftard dribble.
Some of it decade(s) old.

[Leep]

I would ask you is what is going on with the left in their best interest in the long run..the long run being the key.
Who is benefiting?
Certainly not working families. Not children..not law and order..maybe trans and or assorted freaks.
And yet year after year they persist..against their own best interest.

[AnAmericanMother]

And that is why I quoted my 4xG grandfather.

He was there.

He was intimately involved in commercial and money matters.

He had a better handle on it than most.

His conclusion was that slavery was an economic anchor; hence, south would have done better without it. As my old prof. James McPherson said, the way to figure out what people are really thinking is to read their private letters.

[Mount Athos]

A person could believe in 1850, that in that year, it was no longer the right choice economically to hold slaves.

And yet, acknowledge that slavery had benefited the south previously.

Saying that in 1850 we should change policy because things have changed, is very different from saying the South never benefited economically from slaves in the prior 150 years.

That it would have been better off if it had never happened at all. (Which is the question on the table)

Which did your father say?

That in 1850 it didn’t make practical economical sense for these reasons, or that the South would have been better off economically if it had never had it at all in the prior centuries?

If the former, or if it is unclear, then this does not address the question here.

[AnAmericanMother]

He said he saw no reason for it, that it was economically unfeasible and always had been. Ergo, was of no benefit.

That's my recollection.

He's not my *father* - he's my 4Xgreat, born in 1795. He was a lot closer to it all than us (or my father).

[2harddrive]

HISTORY: Not all slaves were freed by the Emancipation Proclamation, nor via Juneteenth. Only the slaves of the REBEL states were freed then. Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation was a wartime effort to split and weaken the South; he did NOT free any slaves in the Northern states. Slaves in the non-rebelling border states had to wait for the 13th Amendment, effective December 18, 1865.

[21twelve]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4Fa7B3a0Hs

Bill Nye is a real hero and has tackled numerous problems in various ways.

The above video is one of his earliest documented heroic actions. Saving Seattle as SPEED WALKER!

[rollo tomasi]

Article is not there anymore. Link to Fox.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/juneteenth-bill-nye-schooled-america-founding-slavery

[rollo tomasi]

Slavery allowed a small percentage to maintain cheap labor (Overhead depending on your operation took resources though) in the South because who the heck would want to voluntarily perform heavy labor in the heat and humidity for pennies a day? Irish indentured servants were dropping like Mayflies in the Caribbean. South needed slavery, no white man en mass used to a northern temperate climate would of voluntarily worked 6 days a week/16hrs a day/live permanently in summer conditions out in the fields picking crops. Counter for this would creating tools/”Necessity is the Mother of Invention” and all of that. Central air being one vital necessity which came many decades later.

[Republican Wildcat]

Thank you!

[17th Miss Regt]

and staples typically associated with slavery, such as the production of cotton - vastly outproduced the South) than the South.

The north outproduced the south in cotton? Really?