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To: ChicagoConservative27; BeauBo
But, but, but, I was told right here by BeauBo on June 1st... that everything is going according to plan and Russia making a killing on their exports of gas, oil, fertilizer, and food is coming to an end soon and those bad old Russians are going to be very sorry. You see, contracts have been signed and infrastructure is now being built.

The USA is going to supply Europe with all the gas they need and more. And yes... that is where BeauBo and others believe the shortfall is going to come from. Never mind that Biden and Co have been systematically destroying our capacity to keep even our own people supplied with Natural Gas.

“In fact, that 24-30 month transition is precisely the Program on which the EU has embarked. The reduction of 2/3rds of Russian gas imports to the EU this year, and 90% next year, are the EU’s own expressed goals, according to the transition plan that they have fully funded, and are enacting.”

“The Europeans have been putting their money where their mouth is, committing billions of new euros to increasing infrastructure capacity since the start of the war, and signing a flurry of new long term contracts for supply.”

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Did you ever notice that BB are the initials of both Baghdad Bob and Beau Bō? Coincidence?

The leftists have taken a wrecking ball to both Western Europe's and the United States Economy in the name of hurting the Russian economy. Is it working? Only if you consider helping the Russian economy and hurting our own to be success. And that is the actual goal... the future of Ukraine is just a sideshow that they could not care less about.

6 posted on 06/19/2022 6:43:12 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: fireman15; ChicagoConservative27

The point of the article was that Germany just took another significant step to replace some of its (previously) imported Russian gas.

They will be burning less Russian gas for electricity generation, and more non-Russian coal in its place.

Electricity generation is probably the biggest single use where natural gas in general can be replaced by other fuels.

In addition to alternative energy sources like coal, the Europeans are also planning/enacting some measures to increase conservation/efficiency of natural gas, where alternatives are not readily available (like industrial uses as a feedstock). In general, higher prices will naturally induce users to conserve some degree more.

Slowing growth or recession will also have some degree of effect in reducing general demand for natural gas, during the transition period away from Russian suppliers.

So some replacement of natural gas, some conservation practices, and general demand suppression due to higher price and the economy in general; will work on the demand side of the equation, while major efforts are underway to arrange alternative supply.

It is a big job, that can’t be done overnight, but this article shows that Germany is continuing to take the actions necessary.

Yes, it is going to hurt the economies of the EU and the likely the world in general, during the transition to other suppliers. That is a hefty price, that must be paid, and is being paid so far.

This coming Winter will likely be the hardest point in the transition off of Russian energy supplies. So Russia will put out a lot of effort to try to break the will of the West, through propaganda, influence campaigns to corrupt officials, and the use of useful dupes on Internet forums, like this one, to demoralize the public into surrendering to Russian aggression and domination.

But ultimately, the price of the transition away from Russian energy is one that the West can pay, without significant loss of life. Putin has taken the conflict to the level of significant loss of life, and made the case for these costs. European political leaders have consciously decided to pay these costs, and are doing so.

The flows of Russian energy to Europe have already slowed pretty dramatically, as the recent 40% reduction through Nordstream further highlights. This Winter is likely Putin’s last hurrah in using the energy weapon to coerce European policy, so we should expect a full court information warfare effort to convince us that resistance is futile.


15 posted on 06/19/2022 8:31:45 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: fireman15; ChicagoConservative27

The point of the article was that Germany just took another significant step to replace some of its (previously) imported Russian gas.

They will be burning less Russian gas for electricity generation, and more non-Russian coal in its place.

Electricity generation is probably the biggest single use where natural gas in general can be replaced by other fuels.

In addition to alternative energy sources like coal, the Europeans are also planning/enacting some measures to increase conservation/efficiency of natural gas, where alternatives are not readily available (like industrial uses as a feedstock). In general, higher prices will naturally induce users to conserve some degree more.

Slowing growth or recession will also have some degree of effect in reducing general demand for natural gas, during the transition period away from Russian suppliers.

So some replacement of natural gas, some conservation practices, and general demand suppression due to higher price and the economy in general; will work on the demand side of the equation, while major efforts are underway to arrange alternative supply.

It is a big job, that can’t be done overnight, but this article shows that Germany is continuing to take the actions necessary.

Yes, it is going to hurt the economies of the EU and the likely the world in general, during the transition to other suppliers. That is a hefty price, that must be paid, and is being paid so far.

This coming Winter will likely be the hardest point in the transition off of Russian energy supplies. So Russia will put out a lot of effort to try to break the will of the West, through propaganda, influence campaigns to corrupt officials, and the use of useful dupes on Internet forums, like this one, to demoralize the public into surrendering to Russian aggression and domination.

But ultimately, the price of the transition away from Russian energy is one that the West can pay, without significant loss of life. Putin has taken the conflict to the level of significant loss of life, and made the case for these costs. European political leaders have consciously decided to pay these costs, and are doing so.

The flows of Russian energy to Europe have already slowed pretty dramatically, as the recent 40% reduction through Nordstream further highlights. This Winter is likely Putin’s last hurrah in using the energy weapon to coerce European policy, so we should expect a full court information warfare effort to convince us that resistance is futile.


16 posted on 06/19/2022 8:31:45 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: fireman15
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"I will gladly predict what will happen on Tuesday six months from now if you take me seriously today." - Free Republic's European Energy Wimpy

You'll notice that he ALWAYS predicts something that's going to happen 6 months to a year or two years from now, which gives him free rein to invent any possibility that he wants.

You just have to take his blatherings seriously.

18 posted on 06/19/2022 8:52:57 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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