Biden stares down from Ukraine-economic ledge

Asia Times ^

[kiryandil]

Whatever the outcome of the UKE war a new Cold War between the Russian-Chinese Entente and the NATO-US block appears to be a certainty.

I'm learning a lot from my new geopolitics guys.

I like that they're not warmongers.

[Arcadian Empire]

Finland and Sweden are worth having as allies.

[Cathi]

“He’ll be cut off with time and tide.”

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Oh, I think that is what is already happening. That is what this “intervention” was all about. NATO including the U.S. has reached the conclusion that the mission has failed and they want a face saving way to get out of this.

They are all (except maybe Poland) getting quite annoyed with Zelensky for refusing to accommodate ending this. Ergo, they sent the committee.

Ukraine has already said they were disappointed in the weaponry they were offered at the Ramstein meeting...both in quantity and in delivery date (not until August.) It was less than they had been led to believe they would be getting. Even the U.S. only offered $1 billion more.

And as the WSJ article just stated weapons offered and weapons delivered are two different things...:-) So far Ukraine claims they have only gotten 10% of what they have been promised.

This is petering out. The question isn’t so much what will Biden do as it is what will Zelensky do. Biden will “memory hole it.” It’s the dems specialty...:-)

[hardspunned]

Why? Do you really think Russia is in any condition to attack NATO? To hell with NATO, do you really think the Russians are going to attack the US? Unless the traitors and dipshits in DC blunder us into WWIII, the Russians are zero threat to us. Are the Finns going to secure our southern border? Are the Swedes going to send resources when our only existential enemy, China, makes its move. So you’re all in on the tens of billions more THIS YEAR to subsidize these new NATO mooches? Is this how we MAGA?

[caww]

Well Zelensky's top aide 'Aleksiy Arestovych' ran against him for the Presidency, he's running alot of this show and no doubt asperations for the Presidency at some point. ....He's a nasty player and more times than not afficiates at the negotiations since Zelensky's been in office..... Arestovych wants this war to engage irectly with Russia and plays hardball with the Eu Leaders as well as Biden when it comes to revenue and weapons etc.

He admitted he lies about the war and to Ukrainians - that it's just natural to do so. He also lies about his background. In fact he lies so much Ukrainians have nicknames for him because of that.

His background is well worth the look see because he has far more expereince than Zelensky.....and he's very controversial. HE's not going to settle in negotiations and h's the one holding things up....

[caww]

Well Zelensky’s just the motor mouth for the audiance ...domestically and world wide..... - especially built and designed for his role. Ukrainians were fooled by this guy but they wanted a hero so one was created for them.

Trouble is his aides are bloodthirsty for war and would love to see Nato fully engaged with Russia - and they will arrange any circumstance needed to see that happen. Dangerous doesn’t say enough. That’s why they keep blowing off all these International leaders because they don’t want to negotiate....they want an extended war.