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DC shifts to damage control as Ukraine defense fades
asiatimes.com ^ | June 14, 2022 | Uwe Parpart and David P. Goldman

Posted on 06/13/2022 7:16:29 PM PDT by elpadre

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1 posted on 06/13/2022 7:16:29 PM PDT by elpadre
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more of story:

“...If the formula that Kissinger and Stoltenberg propose returns to the Western agenda, the warring parties will in effect return to something like the Minsk II framework – which the United States sabotaged in the advent of the present war. A peace agreement is deeply to be desired, but the character of any possible peace will make clear that the war was unnecessary to begin with....”


2 posted on 06/13/2022 7:19:24 PM PDT by elpadre (W)
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To: elpadre

Remember this moron and his standing ovations during the SOTU address? Everyone in Washington is an idiot.


3 posted on 06/13/2022 7:21:58 PM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: elpadre

Another Neocon fail. They suck hard.


4 posted on 06/13/2022 7:29:47 PM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: elpadre

$40 billion and more. Where did all that money go?


5 posted on 06/13/2022 7:31:41 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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To: elpadre
The text of the speech that has everyone in buzz: link.

The anti-Ukraine press is trying too hard to read into this what Biden did not say.

This was a fundraiser. He was trying to raise money. He often tries to make him self look tough by talking down about someone else. Zelensky was a convenient target. He also said he was telling European leaders "America is back" when they would know better. The speech built himself up at the expense of Zelensky and other European leaders, who definitely noticed it.

This speech was for show, not substance. There is no policy shift here.

6 posted on 06/13/2022 7:33:51 PM PDT by Widget Jr (Disobey your television.)
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To: elpadre

The bidenistas ain’t gonna like reading this one.


7 posted on 06/13/2022 7:34:01 PM PDT by chuckb87
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To: virgil

Gone.

10% for the big guy.


8 posted on 06/13/2022 7:37:00 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President! )
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“That’s a turnabout from April 25, when Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin declared in Kyiv that the United States wanted to destroy Russia’s capacity to undertake wars on this scale: “We want to see Russia weakened to the degree that it can’t do the kinds of things that it has done in invading Ukraine.”

What the US missed was that the Pencil-Heads in the Pentagon who imposed “Just-in-Time” production to military hardware (as opposed to paying the cost of housing huge quantities of munitions) never assumed that their Russian counterparts (who most likely graduated from the same US business schools) would be LAUGHED OUT OF THE KREMLIN when they tried that crap there. The Russians said keeping the munitions around was harmless and could be very useful...as we now see.

So, guess which side has the munitions to go decades, and guess which side has to try to resurrect people from the dead to figure out how to produce them again? No, it’s not that hard to figure it out.


9 posted on 06/13/2022 7:37:32 PM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: virgil
$40 billion and more. Where did all that money go?

It was Laundry Day.

10 posted on 06/13/2022 7:38:25 PM PDT by Allegra
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They use the “ALL” free and clear.

It will clean up those nasty skin conditions.


11 posted on 06/13/2022 7:43:16 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President! )
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To: Allegra

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12 posted on 06/13/2022 7:47:05 PM PDT by miserare ( Impeach Joe Biden!)
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To: Fido969

Total morons in DC. Why don’t they tweet out more clips from video games, throw more Ukrainians into a meat grinder, continue the Toria Nuland strategy of endless wars, and declare we are winning?


13 posted on 06/13/2022 7:58:10 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: elpadre

Let’s see, another country the State Dept, NATO, and the CIA destroyed. Do I need to list them again.

The country is broke, bring the dam military home, all of it. It’s time NATO loses its training wheels. No more bribes for the belt way...


14 posted on 06/13/2022 7:58:39 PM PDT by Devils_Tower (media spin)
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To: miserare

The Bidet’s touch of turning anything he handles into s!?t strikes again.


15 posted on 06/13/2022 7:59:26 PM PDT by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media )
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To: Fido969

Remember this moron and his standing ovations during the SOTU address?
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Biden and Neville Chamberlain came from the same mold, but Biden might be even more dangerous to American interests.


16 posted on 06/13/2022 8:08:48 PM PDT by StAntKnee (Add your own danged sarc tag)
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To: elpadre
Yep. Just as I speculated last week, the Dimjo administration is going to do an Afghanistan on Ukraine. I wonder how much and how secret will the the equipment left for Russian be..
17 posted on 06/13/2022 8:19:02 PM PDT by Tupelo (Don't underestimate The Republican Party's ability to f*ck things up)
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To: Widget Jr

Nice point pnhd,
NOT


18 posted on 06/13/2022 8:26:12 PM PDT by A strike ("My country sux" is grounds for asylum?!?)
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To: elpadre

Doubtful Russia would settle for “ Minsk 3” after what the war has cost them, what they will accomplish by continuing, what they have discovered about the brutality of the Ukes to their own people, the level of deceit and duplicity of the Ukrainian govt, NATO and the West.


19 posted on 06/13/2022 8:28:06 PM PDT by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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To: BobL
So, guess which side has the munitions to go decades...

The United States and NATO, obviously. The Russians will run through all their inventory and be left with nothing to defend themselves from China or anybody else who wants to fight with them.

Meanwhile the US and European military suppliers will be getting billions of dollars to make state of the art munitions and weapons systems which Ukraine will test out on the Russian soldiers.

Have you seen how effectively cheap drones with IR sensors are at killing Russian soldiers? In a few years there will be thousands of those drones killing Russian soldiers every day. And the Russians will be trying to buy surplus electronics parts from black market suppliers since they can't even make a drone themselves.

20 posted on 06/13/2022 8:32:58 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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