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To: Zhang Fei; MercyFlush; All

Unfortunately lying is not restricted to only this one of our major international enemies. Some cultures and religions think it is only a crime/sin to lie to their own culture or religionists.


8 posted on 06/13/2022 10:15:37 PM PDT by gleeaikin (Question authorityt)
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To: gleeaikin

[Unfortunately lying is not restricted to only this one of our major international enemies. Some cultures and religions think it is only a crime/sin to lie to their own culture or religionists.]


Again, you’re arguing from principle. If only it were true. Non-Western cultures and religions spend most of their time lying to and/or cheating their own. Affinity fraud is the easiest kind of fraud. That’s why so many of these places are such sewers. The only principle in action isn’t the Golden Rule - it’s looking out for #1.

Think about the way the early Muslims killed Muhammad’s blood kin. This disinherited Muhammad’s relatives from the empire he had created, and set up the schism between Sunni and Shia. If there is one principle that stands out - it’s that people will say and do anything to get ahead.


9 posted on 06/13/2022 10:42:26 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: gleeaikin

The events of American history, and the last three decades in particular demonstrate American leaders lie without hesitation. Most have rejected religion and have no morality.

1800’s. Many treaties with native Americans were violated and they were almost annihilated when they tried to fight back.

1860’s - we are going to give the freed slaves 40 acres and a mule so they can be self sufficient

1960’s and 1970’s - we will defend South Vietnam from communism. Whatever it takes.

1990’s. - free trade will enhance prosperity. Your manufacturing jobs will be replaced by even better jobs in the new service economy.

2000’s we must invade Iraq to get rid of weapons of mass destruction. We will never leave Afghanistan until we rebuild the country and make it safe from terrorism. To Khadaffi - end you nuclear arms program and we won’t interfere with you

2010’s - Barack Obama - tell Putin I’ll have flexibility once re-elected. A few years later from the Democrat Party and the professional bureaucracy - Trump is colluding with Russia and a stooge of Putin.

2020’s Afghanistan abandoned, Saudi Arabia and Israel snubbed. To the American people —Two week lockdown to flatten the curve. Masks aren’t effective. The vaccine is 95% effective and perfectly safe. Masks are effective and must be worn. We will never mandate anyone take the vaccine. Covid is being spread only by the vaccinated. Only N95 masks work. Beware the next variant. Ivermectin is dangerous horse medicine and won’t work against Covid. There was no cheating in the 2020 election. The greatest threat to our democracy was the Jan. 6 invasion of the Capitol by an unarmed mob of 500 people while 250,000 Americans peacefully protested outside. The greatest threat to our country is white supremacy.

American leaders habitually lie to their own people and the rest of the world. The US government has historically violated treaties repeatedly and invaded other nations at will and without formal declarations of war. Putin may be a lier and a monster, but US leaders also have no moral authority based on their behavior. The moral decay in the United States has reached the point where it is impossible to trust not only politicians, but leadership at any level in almost any institution of our society.

Putin and Ukraine are Europe’s problem, not America’s. If the Europeans won’t use their wealth and manpower to deal with situations in their own backyard, so be it. Our country is financially, morally and spiritually bankrupt. We have to stop being the world’s policeman and devote our energy to the many crises at home.


10 posted on 06/14/2022 1:02:52 AM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it)
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