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To: Dogbert41
Almost everyone here is pro-Russian. But you can’t arrest people just for that,” Mace says. In any case, the police and the SBU —Ukraine’s internal security service — were doing what they could. “The SBU even arrested a couple of people in our brigade,” he says.

So the Eastern and Southern Russian speaking oblasts of Ukraine are pro-Russian? Gee…this might explain why they seceded in 2014 after their Democratically Elected President was deposed in a CIA Color Revolution!
52 posted on 06/12/2022 8:09:28 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

False equivalence.

Look at the last election held in Kherson. We know it was majority Russian, and we know it welcomed the Russian federation forces in without putting up much of a fight.

Russia picked a Rashist former journalist to be the civilian administrator. The same guy, two years earlier, got a thumping 1.8% of the popular vote.

Unsurprisingly, it turns out he’s an incompetent, corrupt leader who’s handing over emptied houses and the possessions in them to Russian settlers while the city ran empty of food and medical supplies.

There is growing partisan action... Led by Russian Ukrainians who think of him as a guy who single handedly betrayed the Russian people in what should’ve been a very civilised handover.

The idea that being a Russian leaning, Russian speaker in a predominantly Russified town automatically makes you a good and popular leader in a separatist area is demented. That’s like saying RINOs are popular in MAGA.

Russia actively seeks out the most corrupt people to run those towns, after years of those people bending over backwards to get rid of the corruption.

They didn’t agree to Russian control in order to swap pockets of Ukrainian corruption in city hall (without a hugh body count) for rampant Russian corruption, bloodbath and endemic thievery.

Russia deliberately imposed it on them.

And if it’d do that to a FRIENDLY city that practically let them in without firing a shot, what do you think Russian control looks like in areas that resisted?

So check your facts. 70% of the southern oblasts were of either Russian ethnic descent or spoke fluent Russian. No more than 5% of the southern oblasts would’ve voted for an administration like the one Kherson got.


54 posted on 06/12/2022 11:53:12 PM PDT by MalPearce
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To: Jan_Sobieski

And now, applying the Kosovo logic, what is the point for them to be a part of Ukraine?


55 posted on 06/13/2022 12:15:07 AM PDT by NorseViking
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