[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

There seem to be two wars ongoing. One in which men are sadly dying on both sides, as is the reality of war. The tally for this cannot be known until the war's end.

One is a media-messaged war. Send more money, and send more money, and send more money. Send more weapons, now to include nuclear weapons if a Polish politician's urging is heeded. This is proving to me that the war is in fact a proxy war. not between Ukraine and Russia, but between NATO -- which includes the US -- and Russia, excepting that NATO has not committed to actually entering the war with NATO troops.

Time will tell. Not propaganda. Not press releases. Not opinion journals and the high dudgeon of those who pretend to "know" what the outcome will be.

[BobL]

“One is a media-messaged war.”

Good point - sounds like he’s prepping the US for another 40 big ones.

[buwaya]

You are entirely right. In the meantime for us news junkies we can extract such bits of news that seem meaningful and construct our own scenarios. Its an innocent pastime.