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To: NorseViking

You maybe right. NATO has given up a lot—not just antitank weaponry—but ammunition and other arms.

But consider how much Russia has lost: Tanks, armored personnel carriers, trucks, ammunition and above all—that which matters most—men and leaders of men.

I stand neutral in this conflict, but I really do think Russia would be better off ending offensive operations and defending what they already took: Donbas and the Sea of Azov approaches to Crimea.

Let the Ukrainians spill their blood trying to attack fortifications along those lines.

I honestly believe the Ukrainians are best served acknowledging those territories as lost. Russia is least served trying to take more.


8 posted on 06/11/2022 9:03:00 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Do you believe in oryx propaganda on Russian losses? 80% of their entries can’t be reliably attributed to any side, many are blatantly Ukrainian.
The real estimates for the Ukrainian losses are between 110,000 KIA and MIA and 200,000.
The highest barely realistic estimates of Russian losses are 6,000 KIA, or them 70% Ukrainian rebels.
There were talks that Russia had run out of missiles on the third day of the conflict. It is still using them in increasing numbers, expending more over 3 months than NATO expended over its entire history.


9 posted on 06/11/2022 9:12:21 AM PDT by NorseViking
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