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To: Mount Athos

hmmmmm.... Yeah, that’s not going to give the Russians a reason to nuke Finland, Poland, Germany, Sweden and maybe the Baltics...

It’s just like the difference between fighting in the street or in the suburbs. In the suburbs, everybody yaps and poses and does the big show.... in the street.... you know it’s going to happen so you just unload right off the bat and either kill them or knock them the f@#k out....

If you KNOW that there is going to be a war..... then go ahead and get it over with on your time table. Why wait for the enemy to determine the time and place of attack. That’s why every “military operational plan” doesn’t survive the first minutes of contact... because the enemy gets a vote on what to do.

Here’s a game to play..... It’s called the “What if” game.

1. Russia tells everyone that if you give Ukraine short range precision missiles that are capable of being loaded with nukes... not loaded but CAPABLE of being loaded with nukes, they are going to destroy them either in transit, on transfer depot/rail head or at their departure site.

“What if” Russia shells Rzeszow-Jasionka airport or Ramstein, with nuclear missiles or artillery? What do you strike with nukes in “retaliation”? Just one nuke at each site... just one “little” nuke. Do we go full strike on Russia?

2. “What if”..... After shelling those two sites.. Russia tells the Baltics, Sweden, Finland, and Romania to be neutral or something bad will happen...

3. “What if” at the same time China and NK do the same thing to Taiwan? They’ve lulled everyone to sleep with the random missile launches that just go into the Pacific..... and fly overs that are just “tests”... but decide that they need to go all in.... what do we “hit” with our ICBM, sub based and Air Force when it turns into a first strike?


21 posted on 06/07/2022 12:09:41 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (2 Timothy 4:7 deo duce ferro comitantes)
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To: Dick Vomer
I'm sure here are already target lists drawn up for ever scenario you outlined.

If Russia hits any NATO country conventionally the response will be conventional.

If it's a nuclear strike the counter target is already pre-selected.

25 posted on 06/07/2022 12:15:24 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Dick Vomer
"What if, what if, what if?"

What is the whole point of your musings?

Maybe if you would just come out and directly state where you stand on the issue...

Are you saying that Russia is well within its rights to dictate to other, sovereign nations what alliances they may join?

Are you saying that the Russian invasion of Ukraine was a prudent and measured response to a perceived threat?

Are you saying that we (NATO) should now bow to Russian demands?

Are you saying that the West should undertake whatever is necessary to prevent a "humiliation" of Putin?

You've posed a lot of hypotheticals - some of them pretty speculative - without first establishing where you stand on the issue at hand.

If I didn't know better, I'd think that you were simply trying to stir up dissension and fear among us FReepers, Dick Vomer.

"What if a cryogenically preserved Adolph Hitler were to suddenly re-appear, and threaten to launch missiles at us from his secret Antarctic Base?!

What purpose does it serve to speculate about such things? I'd much rather speculate about Putin dropping dead in three months due to cancer.

Regards,

33 posted on 06/07/2022 12:34:16 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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