Charging station crisis in California

Fox26 Fresno via MSN ^ | June 5, 2022 | Richard Rodriguez

[anton]

Smart prep. But, I’m not willing to tie my future to lithium batteries, in cars or solar storage. they are finicky and dangerous and any time the Chicoms decide we can’t have any more, we won’t have any more.

[Go_Raiders]

Except the screw up the Dems are working on will screw you too.

The “grid access fees” will just grow to eat up any savings, so the capital outlay plus financing cost for your rooftop system will equal and might even exceed your neighbors’ electric bills in the long run.

https://www.solarreviews.com/blog/utility-company-can-make-harder-go-solar

You’d be better served going off grid completely. But even then you’ll need a backup power source.

[TnTnTn]

There is no such thing as a zero emissions vehicle…c’mon man it is like walking your dog and letting it crap in some one else’s yard…

[libertylover]

Isn’t that what hybrids do already?

[willk]

I just drove my new all electric Hyundai Ioniq 5 from New Jersey to Nevada. I only used Electrify America stations and I would say on average that about 25% of the “pumps” were not working. I never had to wait for a high speed charger that will charge my car in 18 minutes. Most stations are in Walmart or Sams Club parking lots and I barely had time to run in and use the bathroom. This is a great car. 0-60 in 4.5 seconds. Almost self driving, quiet and very comfortable. I’m not an environmentalist. I love technology. Electric vehicles are where it is at. My overall average range was 232 miles which isnt bad considering the car is AWD and I was driving mostly freeways at 65-85 mph. Probably would have been 200 in winter. I have an overactive bladder so just right for me.

[Rennes Templar]

Right. And there are around 2 million EV’s in use in the US. So Cali has 900,000.

[Tell It Right]

Your link is referring to what us solar users call the "solar fee". The gist of is that if you export excess power onto the grid (selling power back to the utility) you become what the PURPA law refers to as a "power generating customer". When you do that you're subject to regulations. One of which is paying the fee to accommodate the infrastructure to sell power to the grid. (Another stipulation for power generating customers is that you have to set your solar system to automatically shut off if grid power goes down to keep from electrocuting linemen working on downed power lines.) Thus if you don't put power onto the grid you're not charged that fee and your solar system can provide power to the house even if the grid power is down.

I don't put power onto the grid and never have. That's because my state doesn't do net metering and never has. Thus, solar users in my area have solar systems that have a zero export (sometimes called "no report") option. So I'm not charged the $5.41 X kW of system + 4% tax (after my upgrade that would be $135.03) each month.

Even with that, I always have in the back of my mind that my power utility may win the argument of charging that fee and I'd have to go off-grid to avoid it. If I did that and had a 10kW generator I'd have to run it on average 1.4 hours per month. (I'm a software engineer leaning on the data side, not the front end side, and my solar inverter exports data in 5-minute candles with nice telemetry. So I look at the past 12 months of real data from my 10 kw system with 30kWH storage that I'm upgrading to 21kW with 90kWh, plus adding 8kWh demand per day on avg to charge an EV.) So a 10kW continuous power dual fuel generator would cost about $2,200, including 100 lb propane tank, plus $150 to fill it twice ("fill it" to about 70%). Thus, it'd pay for itself on the 16th month. Not as nice as if I keep doing what I'm doing and pay only the $15.86 flat monthly fees and tax all other Alabama consumers pay plus usage. But if I have to go there I will.

That'll mean a small portion of my energy will come from propane. Which the Dims can make hard to come by. But that beats 100% of my energy needs being hard to come by if the Dims have their way.

At least, that's my take. LOL

[TrumpisRight]

How about using the “Pony Express” idea.

[Rennes Templar]

Interesting.

[US_MilitaryRules]

They’re so beautiful to look at! Plus what if a small airplane needs to land? Lots of BBQ’s!

[aculeus]

“Why not make it where you get a fully charged battery pack interchanged in seconds at a battery station? It would turn into a logistical nightmare I guess. But it would be the fastest way.”

https://www.nytimes.com/1991/09/26/opinion/electric-cars-cut-the-cord.html?searchResultPosition=2

[Rennes Templar]

Use 10,000 amp/hours

Charge 3,000 amp/hours

[CodeToad]

Exactly. Swappable battery packs in a minute would make electric car a far better deal than they are now.

[Vision]

California is for libtards.

[anton]

8 minutes abs.

[Rennes Templar]

S0lar panels on the roof to charge second battery.

[anton]

That would be about 100 watts.

7 minute abs

[Rennes Templar]

How about a playing card on a clothespin in the wheel spokes.

[Svartalfiar]

Zero emission cars? LOL Sure, electricity comes magically out of the charging station.

Not to mention all the fuel and emissions burnt by the big equipment required to dig up the iron and rare earths and (gasp!) oil (for all the plastic)!