Posted on 05/31/2022 10:33:13 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
***Mitch McConnell’s instructions to his fellow Republicans to negotiate with the Democrats ***
OK let’s negotiate.
WE have the guns, the Dems want them.
What do the Dems have that we need so badly we will give up our guns for?
As you can see, THEY HAVE NOTHING to negotiate with but threats and bluster.
So we will keep the guns.
There have been two mass shootings. One at a grocery store in NY and one at a school in Texas.
Yet, there are mass shootings every weekend in Chicago.
Why is that ignored? Dims want black kids to kill other kids? Wouldn’t that be racist? Are dimrats providing weapons and ammo like they provided antifa pallets of bricks?
On the weekends, watching Fox can be treacherous.
There have been more than two mass shootings over the years. A mass shooting is designated as x number of victims shot in the same event timeframe. There are not mass shootings in Chicago, but there are multiple shootings by multiple perps in several different shootings every week. And no, the Dims do not care. They can't call out black gang-bangers for this violence because that would piss off a significant chunk of their voting block.
“I’m sure there is a good reason a teacher propped open a locked door just two minutes before Ramos arrived and crashed his truck. I am sure there is a good reason the administrators didn’t lock down the school after Ramos started shooting at people outside the school despite the fact they had done so in the past. And I am sure it is easy for a ‘poor’ kid like Ramos to get $6000-$8000 to spend on his murder kit.”
Yes, the “good” reason the teacher propped the door open was to prevent being locked out. The reason it appears to defy odds is that we never hear about the thousands of times every day someone bypasses security measures for convenience when no one gets hurt.
It is complete lunacy to think all of these people you mention were willingly part of a conspiracy to kill a classroom full of children. The killer’s history and profile fits. He was not someone who could have been police chief, school principal, or a police officer. He could not even graduate high school. He failed to kill his grandmother or the people who came to help him when he wrecked his car.
But you want us to buy into a conspiracy theory that all of these other people were hiding their diabolical, satanic side, and were just as evil as the murderer? Yet they can function in civil society and control such urges for years without being caught until, on a moment’s notice they are called to action? If the forces of evil have so many minions at their disposal they would already have implemented death camps for all of us.
Such orchestration of random failures could only be done supernaturally. I’m open to that possibility. Otherwise, your claims defy all logic.
I watched News host Sandra Smith confront Republican Representative Mo Brooks with polling results that a narrow majority of Americans want stricter gun laws. When Brooks responded, she interrupted him, preventing him from getting his points across. When time ran out, Brooks had seconds to knock Smith’s argument out of the park. Smith looked like she was tied in a knot.
Y’know, in fiction, the events have to be somewhat believable. The chain of ‘random events’ that led to the attack on Robb elementary school would not pass muster.
And they’re not conspiracy theories any more - they’re spoilers.
“Y’know, in fiction, the events have to be somewhat believable. The chain of ‘random events’ that led to the attack on Robb elementary school would not pass muster.
And they’re not conspiracy theories any more - they’re spoilers.”
Yes, it’s called “plausibility” in literature and film. But there is also the saying, “Truth is stranger than fiction.” This saying is quite true.
The thing is I have had to intervene in numerous situations that could have escalated into deadly events, some of which might have made international news if they were allowed to play out in a different way. I’m not claiming to be a hero, by the way. I’m just saying there are common, everyday situations that can get out of hand. We are only going to read about the ones where there are many points of failure and turn into something horrific.
Now, none of this is to deny that playing with fire does not lead to getting burned. It could very well be that the FIB contributed to this event. They have a history of playing with fire (at best) where they try to orchestrate events to apparently make themselves look good by preventing them from happening. If they can stop catastrophes and put the details in a report, it becomes very easy to justify more budget money, perks, and raises. I haven’t heard any details about how he got his guns, but it is an important question to answer, obviously.
But to suggest that this whole thing was planned by an overarching hand is not plausible. For example, the door not locking when it was closed COULD be orchestrated but probably wasn’t. The same kid who entered this door also could have easily been stopped at numerous other points. That’s a poorly planned mission. He shot his grandmother. Police were called. He wrecked his car. Police were called. He shot at bystanders. Police were called. He entered the building. Police were called. Children were shot. Police were called. There is no conspiracy on the planet that could FORCE ALL of the LEOs to stand down. It does not matter if the captain says it’s a situation where children are no longer in danger. If you are on the ground and you’re hearing shots fired, and children have not been all evacuated, the situation on the ground is changing. You don’t need to follow a standing order in that case. This is police failure, plain and simple. No one orchestrated their incompetence.
But what does not make sense is the idea that someone masterminded this to happen precisely as it did. Far too chaotic. Far too many chances for it to backfire. And, more importantly, a simpler explanation makes more sense. There is no NEED for some puppet-master. The killer was a ticking time bomb that was going to go off sooner or later. No one diffused the bomb in time.
I have come to the conclusion that you’re right.
My guess is that the door wasn’t propped open very far, and, when the teacher kicked the rock away, it didn’t close with enough force to trip the lock.
The cops milling around for almost an hour is just disgraceful bureaucracy in action. No one with drive, no one willing to put his career on the line existed to send cops in after the kids.
Ramos was just an angry moonbat that completely blew up. He had no criminal record that would have stopped him from purchasing firearms, and I doubt his aberrant behavior was ever reported or treated.
I am still wondering where Ramos got the money for his stuff, but I am probably not approaching it from the same angle he was - I am reasonably fiscally responsible and he just didn’t give a d**n.
I am still curious why the school wasn’t locked down when Ramos started shooting outside, and where the resource officer was that day, but the officer could easily have been on an excused absence and lockdown failure could simply be the result of panic when the real thing is standing right outside the door.
I have some of the same questions as you do. But the media experts quit asking and reporting real questions and answers long ago. Rather, they have an agenda to advance. So, it will be up to others to find the answers we seek.
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