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To: SoCal Pubbie
Your argument is a mess. Much of it was sovereign russian territory before 1922 and remained sovereign soviet territory until 1991/2. Now you want to claim that it is sovereign Ukraine territory, a country that didn't historically exist, because the Soviet Union broke up.

Why, if your arugument is valid shouldn't various of our sovereign state break off and join Canada or Mexico, or say form, with a breakaway sovereign federal state of Canada, the North America Winterland Paradise.

80 posted on 05/29/2022 7:13:37 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

No, I have clearly stated that history, particularly that of hundreds of years ago, really plays no part in justifying current events. I don’t know why you’re trying to force YOUR reasoning on me. Your first post to me on this thread was this:

“In 1992 it was all sovereign russian territory. In fact Russia started in Kiev.”

So you’re ignoring several facts here, as long as we’re turning on the wayback machine. One, Ukraine was a constituent republic of the USSR, not an administrative district as you claimed. The Ukrainian SSR had its own membership in the UN, as did the Belorussian SSR.

Then YOU reached back over ELEVEN HUNDRED years to the Kievan Rus! The fact that the Franks were a Germanic tribe gives modern Germany no right to rule France.

Ukraine is a sovereign nation TODAY, and the sovereignty was guaranteed by Russia! That’s been my clear and unambiguous position throughout. Your attempts at obfuscation won’t change anything.


81 posted on 05/29/2022 7:54:56 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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