[jimwatx]

That’s exactly my point, the Poles (among others) want to draw the US into their historic grievance with Russia and somehow exact revenge. No thanks.

[pierrem15]

The Russians have provided a golden opportunity for every country they've pillaged, murdered and raped to their west to give them their comeuppance. I happen to believe doing so is in our best interest. A weakened Russia gives us an opportunity to pivot against China and I think we should take advantage of it

All the blather about Crazy Ivan using nukes is just that: they won't use them against us because they know they'll be incinerated in return and they won't use them against Ukraine because they know NATO and the US would have their conventional nuts skinned and mounted almost immediately.