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Henry Kissinger to Ukraine: Come on, throw Putin a bone: Give Russia Land for Peace
Hotair ^ | 05/24/2022 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 05/24/2022 9:17:14 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Sacajaweau

He’s a fanatic. He can’t help it.


41 posted on 05/24/2022 10:19:35 PM PDT by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: Fido969

RE: Ed Morrissey is a dimwit,

What part of his article tells us this?


42 posted on 05/24/2022 10:42:30 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

If anybody in this picture ends up with just a bone, it’ll bee Zelensky and the nazis.


43 posted on 05/24/2022 11:05:36 PM PDT by ganeemead
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To: SeekAndFind

Kissinger? Dude must be 3’11” by now.


44 posted on 05/24/2022 11:05:58 PM PDT by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Pathetic but look at ol Henry he is 98 years old which is quite an accomplishment.


45 posted on 05/24/2022 11:08:29 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: SeekAndFind

Kissinger is stuck in the time warp of 1600-2000 Europe. Unfortunately the world has changed. There is no need for a “balance of power” in Europe because everyone is on the same side now except Russia. And Russia will never be a part of Europe as long as Putin is in charge. Indeed, 8 years of Yeltsin was not enough to sway Russia away from the czarist and Soviet mentality.

The real long term threat today is China, not Russia. Russia is a failed oil kleptocracy on its last legs (though alas armed with nukes). Russia brings nothing useful to China except oil. And Russia has nothing useful to offer Europe.

Ukraine needs to decide how much blood it is willing to shed. At this point all indications are that it will keep shedding until it recovers all its territory. But that will not be feasible indefinitely. Maybe sign an armistice as has been done many times in the middle east, and live to fight another day? Russia can claim victory with the added territory but it’s a hollow one as now the whole world knows that the emperor has no clothes, and his army is probably worse off than the chicoms.

The real balance of power is the free world vs. China and autocrats around the world. Not to mention the civilized world v. the Islamo fascists of many stripes, the NORKs, etc. France v. Germany went out in 1945, just as USA v. USSR went out in the 1990s. Nobody told Putin yet, and he refuses to accept it, and hence his last gasp.


46 posted on 05/24/2022 11:09:17 PM PDT by KingofZion
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To: Eleutheria5

How many Ukrainians have come to Israel? My guess is 30,000.


47 posted on 05/24/2022 11:12:58 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: SeekAndFind
Russia already has the territory it wants. Zelensky knows what his country is capable of fighting and holding. Both of them are continuing the fight because they both wants their own share of the spoils for "rebuilding", of which the US is gleefully donating forty effing billion dollars toward, probably with more to come if nobody stops them.

The effed up thing is that if the US just said "you know what, this is between y'all, we're not helping anything by putting a thumb on the scales any more, we're simply not going to participate." both the Ukraine and Russia would keep going, destroying the lives of their countrymen in the hope that it would get so bad that the UN, WEF, US, etc.. would just throw money at the problem until it stopped looking awful. Worse still, they're mostly right.

48 posted on 05/24/2022 11:22:38 PM PDT by jz638
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The Volga River is less than 90 miles from the eastern most border of the Donbas. That river is the conduit for about 5 million barrels/day that head north from the Caspian Sea for distribution at Moscow. There was never any way Russia could allow NATO that close.

Stop thinking of who has moral high ground about what and who is in the wrong and how abused who.

It doesn’t matter.

This is the first war in history where both sides have excellent satellite recon. Advances will always be slow in all warfare of the future. You can do nothing with troop concentrations that the enemy cannot see. Everything can be countered.

It has nothing to do with courage or good vs bad weapons or poor tactics or poor morale. It’s all about recon and it’s not really about much else.

So all the silliness about the Russian convoy being stopped from having no fuel or Chinese tires . . . just forget all that stuff. They certainly had fuel and tires to redeploy, so that absurd story was clearly wrong.

Advance is slow because it has to be slow. If you mass troops anywhere, they will be seen and hit from afar.

No one outside the Kremlin has any idea where Russia will stop its advance. There is a nuclear power plant at a place called Energovar. Russia has it. It is 1/2 the nuclear power of all of Ukraine. Mayor of Metropol has said they will not be giving it back. They will sell power.

Watch that situation. It matters a lot more than hand waving over heads about war crimes.


49 posted on 05/24/2022 11:23:17 PM PDT by Owen
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To: SeekAndFind

How many more centuries eill the world be afflicted by Kissinger?


50 posted on 05/25/2022 12:16:31 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They’re excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: BobL

Israel took Sinai in the 1967 war.

They were merely giving it back as part of a peace treaty.

Ukraine is different; Apples-Oranges.


51 posted on 05/25/2022 12:58:16 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: SeekAndFind

Kissinger was the architect behind Nixon’s “Let make China strong” policy. This ahole’s advice was a disaster for America. He should shut the hell up and spend his time pondering his epic disastrous advice.


52 posted on 05/25/2022 1:15:10 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: Hostage

“hey were merely giving it back as part of a peace treaty.”

Pretty much the same with Crimea, just a longer timeline. Ukraine should have NEVER demanded to keep it.


53 posted on 05/25/2022 2:01:12 AM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to groom my children, but anti-Putin people are)
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To: SeekAndFind

Up to this point it has been the US/UK that have all but forbidden the Ukes to make any sort of deal with Russia to end the conflict. Kissinger is recognizing the obvious (the Ukes are losing) and is trying to end the globalists’ disastrous little war before things really fall apart....and the clock is ticking. He’s smart enough to know that.

The choice is not make a deal now or keep fighting to deny Putin what he wants. The choice is cut your losses by making a deal now or Putin will bite off a much bigger chunk if you keep fighting. The collapse of the Uke army is inevitable. Its just a question of a few months max.

The good news is the globalists got the war they wanted and it blew up right in their faces. Their whole project has been dealt a severe blow.


54 posted on 05/25/2022 3:02:18 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d like to see him negotiate someone trying to rob his home or trying to rape one of his grandkids.


55 posted on 05/25/2022 3:02:58 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: Cathi

Correct. Nobody is saying Kissinger is a paragon of morality. The question is, Who do you think is smarter, more capable and more competent - Kissinger or the imbeciles in the Biden administration and the Deep State?

To any rational observer, that’s no contest.


56 posted on 05/25/2022 3:05:51 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: SeekAndFind

1. The patient can get well and go home.
2. The patient can die.
3. The patient can continue to languish in the hospital, racking up bills.

Kissinger wants no. 3.


57 posted on 05/25/2022 3:18:57 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: SpaceBar

Shows you don’t know anything about Kissinger.


58 posted on 05/25/2022 3:27:53 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: jz638

Don’t be stupid.

Russia, rebuild? 80% of the country outside of the major cities are barely out of the 1970s technologically.

Between them, Putin and the oligarchs have some 960 billion dollars to spend on anything... and they’re spending it on yachts, gold toilet seats, nukes and palaces.

The only oligarch to actually do a lot of constructive stuff to benefit ordinary Russians with his stolen wealth, has been ruined by Putin and is living in exile.

Two possible Putin replacements are interested in peace and modernisation, others just want perpetual war. Putin hasn’t had a single sleepless night because of the war on the ground; it doesn’t impact him directly. But perhaps he’s worried about his replacements / rivals, and his health.

The Russian kleptos aren’t even interested in rebuilding Russia let alone Ukraine.

On the flip side Zelensky has probably been surviving on 3 hour’s sleep a day for three months, has directly lost countless friends and relatives to the invasion, and that’s after fruitlessly trying to get Azov to stand down in 2019.

The idea he’s doing this for personal financial benefit for the rebuild is beyond retarded. The Globalists offered him safe passage out of Ukraine right at the start of this and several times since; he said he needed guns and air support to minimise Russian destruction, not a ride to safety.

He didn’t get the air cover (which is fair enough - we didn’t want to engage Russia that directly - but as a consequence of us not going there Russia was able to shell Mariupol day and night for weeks.

If we’re going to complain about the rebuild costs then MAYBE certain NATO members shouldn’t have been such pussies early on. Poland offered a way to reinforce Ukrainian air defences, Germany blocked it.


59 posted on 05/25/2022 4:12:05 AM PDT by MalPearce
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To: FLT-bird

What is to stop Russia selling any deal as a huge victory at home, restocking its weapons, and hitting Ukraine even harder later?

Other deals that Russia broke include the UN Charter, the formal recognition of independence for the eastern bloc countries and Georgia, the Budapest Memorandum...

All of which had far more legal and moral standing than a ceasefire agreement that tears up the Budapest Memorandum and demotes Ukraine to a disputed territory.


60 posted on 05/25/2022 4:28:48 AM PDT by MalPearce
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