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It is hard to find any pathway where either of them will win in November, even in the remarkable conditions available to Republican candidates right now.

PA Freepers: can this be right? No way for either Mastriano or Barnette to win?

1 posted on 05/15/2022 3:31:31 PM PDT by T Ruth
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Salena Zito is still pissed two Conservatives are being nominated in PA. Film and funny animal videos at 11.


113 posted on 05/15/2022 6:07:56 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Plugs the Pedo - The Shart Heard 'Round The World)
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119 posted on 05/15/2022 6:25:29 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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The PA GOP establishment has a nasty habit of offering minimal “support” for candidates that they don’t like.

Ask Scott Wagner about the support he received four years ago when he challenged Wolf.


120 posted on 05/15/2022 6:26:49 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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Salena Zito was a star reporter for our local paper before it decided to go "me too" mainstream. She is exceptionally knowledgeable about Pennsylvania politics and was one of the first to predict the Trump upset in 2016.

I would trust her a lot.

124 posted on 05/15/2022 6:57:04 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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It is hard to find any pathway where either of them will win in November, even in the remarkable conditions available to Republican candidates right now.
PA Freepers: can this be right? No way for either Mastriano or Barnette to win?>>> It’s what the republican swamp people say. I guess they are all billionaires with the same type of stock predictions they have made over the past several years. nope. Who know. Mastriano went after the election corruption and the shut downs , One of the few and they crucified him. He started up the audits while Corman did nothing. Corman fired Mastriano’s staff and deleted his senate email account. And they say he doesn’t build coalitions. I think he gets along with RUss Diamond and Judy Ward. Two excellent Republicans. There are only a few “R”s that i will ever vote for from Harrisburg. They are as corrupt as commies. Barletta is fine but i don’t see why he is the answer to Josh Shapiro the dem. He lost to Casey for senate by a lot. I think Barnette can beat Fetterman (uncle Festus). No commie here in PA will vote for her but... I think she can appeal to women suburban voters. Lies by republicans against republican candidates are pretty hard to take. They lie about her a lot. even the Lie about Mastriano and his hipaa statement was a letter published March 18th 2020. It still is one of the most rational comments made by any one at the time. He was concerned with contract tracing. THis was March 2020.


127 posted on 05/15/2022 7:58:44 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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Sure, Barnette will have a hard row to hoe if she wins the primary. The GOP money will not go to her. They’d rather have a Democrat win than support an ultra MAGA like herself. And I’d also be concerned that Trump money won’t be there for her either, as she dared to challenge his pick. He’s already said she has no chance. Why would he waste his support on her in the general?

So likely any of the infrastructure needed to win will have to be built by her, herself, alone. And that will be tough.

BUT..........

They said the same thing about Trump in 2016.


152 posted on 05/16/2022 2:55:18 AM PDT by markomalley (Directive 10-289 is in force)
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Trump was “unelectable” as well


153 posted on 05/16/2022 3:04:11 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being played by forces most do not understand)
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I see absolutely no way for Oz or McCormick to win....

Both have shown they can’t hunt. After spending 30 Million each they both have sat at around 20% support through the entire primary (closed primary only GOP voters don’t back either of them)... Yet they are somehow going to inspire support not only among the GOP faithful but the independents as well? Not likely to happen.

Both will play at BEST as a generic R candidate, and they will be facing a Solid D candidate... That’s not a recipe for a victory in the fall.

Even before Barnette stormed onto the scene in the debates, I have stated and stand by it, if there is a race where the Democrats are likely to buck the general Red Wave this fall its the PA Senate race if Oz or McCormick are the nominee. Yes, they are that bad.

Only way I see OZ or McCormick winning is if the D brand is so damaged by Biden and the Economy that a ham sandwich would win as long as it has an R beside its name.

Barnette is probably the ONLY candidate I think WON’T disappear in Fetterman’s shadow, if she comes out swinging like she did in the GOP debates, she’ll do fine. Little black woman giving as good as she gets against the 6’9 Beast that is Fetterman will stand out... Oz and McCormick simply doing the Gary Condit Smirk every time they get punched, won’t get them anywhere, just like it didn’t in the GOP debates.

Barnette and Mastriano’s biggest issues with the fall are the GOP establishment will work against both of them harder then they have worked against any Democrat... because they don’t want either of them... They both will have to battle both sides to pull out the fall campaign.

If Barnette is the nominee the Senate is Strong D vs Unpredictable R... and I’ll take that match up over Generic R vs Strong D anyday in this state.

The funny thing about unvetted Barnette argument is, she’s the only one of the 3 who has actually run for office before... Yes she lost, but she actually outperformed Trump in her district... (the establishment screams the first part, but always ignores the second part when attacking her). Oz and McCormick are completely untested as candidates, even in this race they have simply talked to the connected and worked the organization, not the electorate.. neither have any real on the ground support here to build from, just the party structure.

The Governor’s race, You have more of a Generic D vs Genericish R... Shapiro will have his party behind him solidly and as I said Mastriano likely will be facing his own party undercutting him at every turn..

Barnette and Mastriano are both going to have to do this with the Grassroots behind them... Barnette I believe has the personality to pull it off, not so sure about Mastriano....

Personally I think Barnette is going to excite a lot more people than Oz or McCormick ever could if she pulls off the upset tomorrow... We will see. Mastriano.... really not sure... that race is winnable, Shapiro is a generic D candidate, doesn’t excite anyone, but solidly has the D machine behind him... not sure if Mastriano has the personality and presence to pull it off...

Historically, Governors house tends to switch parties after 2 terms... and there is a red wave coming... so at a baseline R’s should have the advantage for the governorship... but honestly haven’t been following the Governor’s race closely. Mastriano clearly has had the race locked up for about a month in terms of the primary.. and has pretty much held a lead most of the cycle.

Will see what happens in General land.. but I would bet dollars to donuts the GOP e will continue to attack him and offer nothing but token support through the general election... we will see. They don’t want him...


164 posted on 05/16/2022 2:22:38 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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