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Finland, Sweden to meet with Turkey over NATO
Hot Air .com ^ | May 15, 2022 | JAZZ SHAW

Posted on 05/15/2022 11:41:28 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 05/15/2022 11:41:28 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

What is the procedure for expelling Turkey from NATO? It is long overdue.


2 posted on 05/15/2022 11:46:36 AM PDT by devere
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To: devere

Turkey, like Russia, is currently illegally occupying a part of another country, in Cyprus, which they invaded in 1974.


3 posted on 05/15/2022 11:48:49 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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The majority of nations do NOT support Senile Joe’s sanctions. They realize Russia is a major exporter of food, energy, NG, commodities, metals, etc…and will not jeopardize losing items vital to their existence, India included.

That said, Senile Joe’s are failing, miserably. In fact, they have harmed the west, much to Vlad’ glee.

“ISTANBUL —
While the United States and European Union are enforcing powerful financial and trade sanctions on Moscow and closing their airspace to Russian airplanes, Turkey strongly opposes such measures, arguing they are counterproductive.

As a result, concerns are growing that Turkey is helping Russians to circumvent the sanctions, said Timothy Ash, an emerging-markets analyst with London-based Bluebay Asset Management.

“There [has] been some focus on reflagging of Russian aircraft as Turkish aircraft. There are strong trading, banking relationships between Russia and Turkey. [There has been] some media attention on a lot of Russians trying to set up new bank accounts in Turkey, presumably to try to get around some of the problems they are probably encountering. There has also been concern that Russian companies, entities trying to export or trade with Russia, are repackaging themselves as Turkish entities.”

VOA reached out to Turkish government officials for comment but did not receive a response at the time of reporting.

Ankara insists it abides by its international legal responsibilities. But analyst Atilla Yesilada of Global Source Partners said it’s not the first time Turkey has been suspected of international sanctions-busting.

“A lot of people [hoped] that Turkey would become a proxy financial center or intermediary for Russia,” Yesilada said. “I wouldn’t put it past the current regime to try to repeat the Reza Zarrab incident - 40 billion dollars of money whitewashed to Iran…..

https://www.voanews.com/a/turkey-s-opposition-to-russian-sanctions-stokes-suspicions-of-sanction-busting-/6490132.html

…and Vlad says Checkmate, again.


4 posted on 05/15/2022 11:51:06 AM PDT by delta7
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To: dfwgator

“Turkey, like Russia, is currently illegally occupying a part of another country, in Cyprus, which they invaded in 1974.”

Yup.


5 posted on 05/15/2022 11:52:07 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: dfwgator

Given that Turkey’s invasion of Cyprus occurred right after a military coup that aimed at the annexation of the island by Greece, maybe that’s a bad example to use.


6 posted on 05/15/2022 11:56:57 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Seems to me Turkey’s and Russia’s excuses are pretty much the same.


7 posted on 05/15/2022 12:01:26 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Then why is Turkey still there, and furthermore, threatening to annex Northern Cyprus?


8 posted on 05/15/2022 12:02:27 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ought-six

I’ve been saying, Russia is actually keeping Turkey somewhat in check.

If Russia is removed as a threat, expect Turkey to take advantage of the situation, and re-assert their role as leader of The Islamic World. And they we be a hundred times the threat that Russia could dream of being.


9 posted on 05/15/2022 12:07:05 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

They’re probably still there because of a sizable Turkish ethnic minority, as well as the fact that Cyprus was under Turkish/Ottoman rule for centuries.

Realistically, they’re there because they saw a geopolitical opportunity and seized it, much like any regional power does when acting within its sphere of influence.

If Cyprus is eager to kick Turkey off of the island, let them assemble a military force sufficient for the task.

But when you’re over 4 decades into an occupation being deemed “illegal” with little to show for it other than an uneasy stalemate, the locals probably acknowledge the de facto reality more readily than toothless international condemnation.


11 posted on 05/15/2022 12:15:20 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: colonelzanders

Istanbul is not Turkey, just as NYC isn’t the US. Go outside of the more cosmopolitan cities in Turkey, and you might as well be in Iran.


12 posted on 05/15/2022 12:17:08 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: devere

Wish they’d expel us from NATO.


13 posted on 05/15/2022 12:21:32 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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To: delta7

“The majority of nations do NOT support Senile Joe’s sanctions.”

There are 197 recognized countries in the world today. So, a majority would be 99 countries.

Name them.


14 posted on 05/15/2022 12:24:34 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: dfwgator

“Turkey, like Russia, is currently illegally occupying a part of another country, in Cyprus, which they invaded in 1974.”

Turkey also illegally invaded, occupied, and annexed parts of northern Syria.


15 posted on 05/15/2022 12:30:50 PM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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To: devere

Agree with expelling Turkey from NATO. Ultimately, USA and Canada should withdraw from NATO. It is becoming an European military alliance. Maybe UK should quit. They are unique, they’re European but they are Anglo so they do not exactly fit either.


16 posted on 05/15/2022 12:31:52 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

“Given that Turkey’s invasion of Cyprus occurred right after a military coup that aimed at the annexation of the island by Greece, maybe that’s a bad example to use.”

Not really. Turkey’s occupation of northern Cyprus (which Turkey alone among all the nations of the world recognizes “Northern Cyprus” as a country) has been declared illegal by all international organizations for almost 50 years.


17 posted on 05/15/2022 12:38:46 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Kaslin

Erdogan is holding out for some kind of payoff, like US F16s.


18 posted on 05/15/2022 12:41:24 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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Turkey is the enemy within NATO. It needs to go. We also need to pull out. Let Europe solve its own problems.


19 posted on 05/15/2022 12:41:44 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (In time of peace, prepare for war.)
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To: dfwgator

“If Russia is removed as a threat, expect Turkey to take advantage of the situation, and re-assert their role as leader of The Islamic World. And they we be a hundred times the threat that Russia could dream of being.”

I disagree. Iran and Pakistan would oppose that, and likely so would Saudi Arabia. Turkey doesn’t have the game to pull that off.


20 posted on 05/15/2022 12:42:12 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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