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To: Apparatchik

I am sure that genuinely is your position on this conflict. I am also sure you realize that it is not everyone’s position.

I am totally opposed to our backing Ukraine in this disaster not out of some sense of morality although morally speaking I definitely think Russia is in the right on this one. No, I am opposed to this because it is going to destroy the United States.

Of course, I was also opposed to our creating this puppet state in our attempt to take down Russia/Putin.

Americans now “live behind the iron curtain” in terms of information. We are spoon fed a totally inaccurate narrative and denied by our media any information which runs counter to the state (and media) approved information so it is understandable that we are emotionally manipulated to buy into a false picture of reality.

This is going to be a disaster for the United States on every level (there is already reams of early data that supports my contention) and as a very patriotic and very informed American I am devastated watching our self inflicted demise.

And you may want to look into the actual “slaughtering soldiers” data that you are excited by. The battle to date is completely one sided. Ukraine’s soldiers are being massacred; something we bear responsibility for since we deliberately instigated this proxy war.

And, in keeping with the topic of this thread, here is an account from one Ukranian soldier that was posted yesterday

“Another fighter of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who laid down his arms spoke about the betrayal of his command.

[...] “The commanders abandoned everyone and left, and they left us as “cannon fodder” ... The commander said there were 45 of us, 14 remained ... We did not eat, did not drink for three days, the Russian soldiers gave us water , food, they give cigarettes. Heat is everywhere, everything is there, no one beats, no offends. “


24 posted on 05/13/2022 9:14:00 AM PDT by Cathi
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To: Cathi

The disaster for the US isn’t the Ukraine, its Biden.


27 posted on 05/13/2022 9:23:51 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Cathi

Oh, here we go with the imaginary state-controlled media. The whole world’s media is covering the war in Ukraine and all are reporting the same thing - Russia is getting its clock cleaned. Are they also controlled by Schwab and the lizard people or whatever you think?

One question: you say this is going to be a disaster for the US, based on unspecified “reams of early data,” yet you never explain how. Care to elaborate?

Ok, another question. You think from a moral standpoint, Russia is right to have invaded a sovereign country that was no threat to it. I’d be interested to understand how you reached that conclusion. And please don’t go into imaginary Nazis in the Ukrainian government or the war against Donbas separatists who have been supplied weapons from Russia for eight years.

Oh, and I don’t consider the slaughter of Russian troops “exciting” but I do consider it necessary.


29 posted on 05/13/2022 9:35:41 AM PDT by Apparatchik (If you find yourself in a confusing situation, simply laugh knowingly and walk away - Jim Ignatowsk)
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