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Ukraine to halt key Russian gas transit to Europe, blames Moscow
Reuters ^ | May 10, 2022 | Pavel Polityuk and Susanna Twidale

Posted on 05/10/2022 4:38:38 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

KYIV/LONDON, May 10 (Reuters) - Ukraine said on Tuesday it would suspend the flow of gas through a transit point which it said delivers almost a third of the fuel piped from Russia to Europe through Ukraine, blaming Moscow for the move and saying it would move the flows elsewhere.

Ukraine has remained a major transit route for Russian gas to Europe even after Moscow's invasion.

GTSOU, which operates Ukraine's gas system, said it would stop shipments via the Sokhranivka route from Wednesday, declaring "force majeure", a clause invoked when a business is hit by something beyond its control.

But Gazprom (GAZP.MM), which has a monopoly on Russian gas exports by pipeline, said it was "technologically impossible" to shift all volumes to the Sudzha interconnection point further west, as GTSOU proposed.

GTSOU CEO Sergiy Makogon told Reuters that Russian occupying forces had started taking gas transiting through Ukraine and sending it to two Russia-backed separatist regions in the country's east. He did not cite evidence.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


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This has honestly been one of the most perplexing things since Russia's invasion began back on February 2022: namely, why Ukraine still allowed Russian gas to flow through pipelines going through its territory.

This is the situation we have today with Ukraine in that Ukraine is not the supplier of any of the gas flowing through those pipes: Russia is. Ukraine and Russia are at war yet Ukraine not only allowed gas to flow — which Russia has to sell to fund itself — but at the same time they've still been getting paid for the transport; exactly what sort of mental gymnastics are involved when you have two nations at war (where both are continuing to engage in commerce with each other's state-owned enterprises) and other nations backing one of the combatants is still simultaneously engaged in commercial transactions with the belligerent they claim is at fault and don't want to win?

I can only surmise what effects this will have on the energy markets in Europe, and whether Ukraine is gambling on this being the key to drawing Europe further into the war with Russia over the matter of energy (banking — correctly, I would argue — that Europe lacks the fortitude to fully decouple from Russian gas given how much they've collectively crippled their own natural energy resources to appease the environmentalist greenies).

We shall see.

1 posted on 05/10/2022 4:38:38 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
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This has honestly been one of the most perplexing things since Russia's invasion began back on February 2022: namely, why Ukraine still allowed Russian gas to flow through pipelines going through its territory.

Yes, I would have thought that would have been the first thing they would do.

2 posted on 05/10/2022 4:45:24 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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"This has honestly been one of the most perplexing things since Russia's invasion began"...

What "invasion"?? Are you talking about the Russian rescue operation in Eastern Ukraine??

3 posted on 05/10/2022 4:52:05 PM PDT by ganeemead
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To: Mark17

It’s always been a shell game. Ukraine scamming the US and Nato for support and billions of dollars to keep it’s crooked society intact.

Zelensky has been winking at Putin all the while this war game charade plays itself out.

The sanctions have done nothing to Russia and in fact has exposed the weakness of the Nato leadership and of course the Biden administration.


4 posted on 05/10/2022 4:53:20 PM PDT by blackberry1
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Really?

You’re surprised Ukraine doesn’t collapse the economies of Europe by precipitously shutting off the gas?

How exactly is this perplexing to you...


5 posted on 05/10/2022 4:53:40 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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“This has honestly been one of the most perplexing things since Russia’s invasion began back on February 2022:’

Not perplexing. The Ukes get transit fees for moving that gas. Stop the gas — stop the fees.

Ruskies are bad EXCEPT when they are paying you.


6 posted on 05/10/2022 4:55:51 PM PDT by icclearly
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To: ganeemead
That Russia frames it as a special military operation to aid the separatist republics in eastern Ukraine is beyond dispute; there's even a good deal of evidence to support their framing of it, at least to some extent.

What's also beyond dispute is the fact that, under any conventional military definition of the term 'invasion', Russia invaded Ukrainian territory.

The above two events are not mutually exclusive.

7 posted on 05/10/2022 4:56:18 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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"This has honestly been one of the most perplexing things since Russia's invasion began back on February 2022: namely, why Ukraine still allowed Russian gas to flow through pipelines going through its territory."

Because Ukraine needs Europe's help to defend itself. And cutting gas off from Europe, hurts Europe as much as it hurts Russia.

8 posted on 05/10/2022 4:56:41 PM PDT by DannyTN
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You’re surprised Ukraine doesn’t collapse the economies of Europe by precipitously shutting off the gas?

Because Ukraine needs Europe's help to defend itself. And cutting gas off from Europe, hurts Europe as much as it hurts Russia.

Given that many European nations have already sanctioned Russia and have communicated publicly the desire for regime change in the Russian Federation, the continued payment for Russian gas is simply bewildering from the standpoint of consistency.

In what sort of insane world do you directly fund the nation who you want to lose a war?

9 posted on 05/10/2022 5:01:49 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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Why would Ukraine shut off gas supplies to its European allies? It would have devastating effects on their economies and impact their aid to Ukraine, not to mention the 5 million Ukrainian refugees in Europe.


10 posted on 05/10/2022 5:03:21 PM PDT by kabar
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Oil sells itself and Russia won't have a problem finding other buyers.

But, losing one-third of Russia's oil will devastate European nations, many of which will end up paying more for Russian oil through a third party.

11 posted on 05/10/2022 5:04:31 PM PDT by Kazan
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Well the only reason you are perplexed is because you don’t grasp basic economic reality that suddenly shutting off the gas would destroy the economies of Europe.

Europeans themselves have said so.

If they have some years they can adapt and substitute in an imperfect fashion, but you do it at once and it’s catastrophic. Also coal does not really substitute everything gas is used for, there are a lot of industrial uses you can’t just readily replace gas with.

Also Europe isn’t all on the same page on sanctions as much as you might guess, despite them wanting to keep up appearances.


12 posted on 05/10/2022 5:06:16 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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Well the only reason you are perplexed is because you don’t grasp basic economic reality that suddenly shutting off the gas would destroy the economies of Europe. Europeans themselves have said so.

Then said Europeans should shut their mouths about engaging in proxy wars with Russia if they have no interest in actually decoupling from Russian gas that is funding the same invasion they like to virtue signal about opposing.

13 posted on 05/10/2022 5:11:50 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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Not inconsistent at all. Germany depends on Russia for more than 50% of its natural gas supply. Shutting it off immediately without any alternate supply and the lack of infrastructure to accept supplies from other sources would devastate the German economy, the largest in Europe. Domestically, the political blowback would be unacceptable to the current leadership. And there would be a ripple effect throughout Europe.

It will take years to wean Germany off of Russian natural gas. That is called reality.


14 posted on 05/10/2022 5:12:46 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

They are moving to reduce reliance on Russian gas but if they did it immediately overnight as you suggest it would absolute destroy their economies.

So you are totally surprised and perplexed that they don’t destroy their economy.


15 posted on 05/10/2022 5:14:55 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
This has honestly been one of the most perplexing things since Russia's invasion began back on February 2022: namely, why Ukraine still allowed Russian gas to flow through pipelines going through its territory.

Probably because West Europe which Ukraine depends on said if you want any help from us, don't mess with the gas... at least until warmer weather arrives

16 posted on 05/10/2022 5:18:41 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

ZACTLY! I’ve been asking this very question for about a month now! Ukraine is facilitating Russia’s ability to prosecute a war against itself. Either there were a bunch of crooked people or a bunch of profoundly stupid people!


17 posted on 05/10/2022 5:19:19 PM PDT by Segovia
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To: Mount Athos

The Germans have said it will take years to construct the infrastructure to handle LNG from other sources. It starts with the ports and then the new pipelines to connect to the existing system.

And who will supply the LNG? The US can eventually, but the Biden Administration is blocking the expansion of supply and infrastructure.


18 posted on 05/10/2022 5:19:35 PM PDT by kabar
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To: DannyTN

Yep.


19 posted on 05/10/2022 5:22:36 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Fossil fuels drive every economy. Pres.Zelenskyy is such a brilliant man, cancelling Russian gas that flow thru pipelines in Ukraine to Europe. Zelenskyy will finally show the world how effective green energy is.
Will the Ukrainian President release the bioweapons housed in Ukraine? Paging Dr. Fauci….


20 posted on 05/10/2022 5:23:05 PM PDT by Yolanda (Jussie Smollett hoa)
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