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Why is biggest baby formula plant in US STILL shut down after three months? Abbott says plant is safe and was not responsible for bacteria that killed two kids - but FDA refuses to reopen it
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Posted on 05/10/2022 1:44:13 PM PDT by algore

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To: Valpal1

They DID find Y. Because the strains they found didn’t make the kids sick. X is the strains that made the kids sick. They found some other strains. That’s Y.


61 posted on 05/11/2022 1:13:30 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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"Abbott alleges that none of the formula distributed to consumers tested positive for Cronobacter or Salmonella.

The manufacturer claims the FDA and Abbott officials both tested retained products for the bacterias and yielded negative results.

Abbott notes no trace of Salmonella was found at the Sturgis plant and the Cronobacter that was found in environmental testing during the investigation was in non-product contact areas of the facility.

The company alleged the traces of Cronobacter at their plant have 'not been linked to the two available patient samples or any other known infant illness.'"

And yet, in spite of all this negative testing and complete lack of evidence, the plant remains closed because some Karen at the FDA is insisting that there must be some there somewhere if only they continue with their extended testing and find it. So... test every effing can in the plant?

It's only a matter of time before the Karen gets transferred laterally to a desolate outpost, preferably in Death Valley.

62 posted on 05/11/2022 5:31:02 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: carriage_hill; All

Outgoing White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki says parents who can’t find baby formula ‘should have just had an abortion’

https://genesiustimes.com/white-house-says-parents-who-cant-find-baby-formula-should-have-just-had-an-abortion/


63 posted on 05/11/2022 7:33:17 PM PDT by Texan4Life
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To: combat_boots

Saw one of the old formula recipes called for honey

Infants and babies under the age of 1 should never be given honey. It can give them food poisoning


64 posted on 05/11/2022 9:12:19 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Back after a long hiatus. Now mygrandkidsgrandma)
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To: Texan4Life

Is that a satire mag?

It’s 6:30a, and I’m just on my first mug of Kona Coffee... it’s better be satire...


65 posted on 05/12/2022 3:38:32 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Valpal1

That’s all X. Which is nice. They didn’t kill those kids. But there’s still Y:
which said it found food safety violations at the plant, as well as five strains of Cronobacter, a bacteria that can cause blood infections and meningitis

That is the ENTIRE story. The plant has problems. It’s not some Karen at the FDA, it’s not some grand conspiracy. Their plant is poorly run and needs fixing.


66 posted on 05/12/2022 7:25:39 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: soozla

Abbott is saying the bacteria does not match the strain at their plant. Which they state was in the container area. Not the production area. This may be true or false, just relaying the info.

https://www.abbott.com/corpnewsroom/nutrition-health-and-wellness/abbott-update-on-powder-formula-recall.html


67 posted on 05/12/2022 7:53:25 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: discostu

5 strains of cronobacter in non-product areas is meaningless as cronobacter is found in floors and walkways of 75% households.

They didn’t find any in the product or the product manufacturing areas, the strains they did find were not a match.

Whatever other small potatoes violations they did find should not take going on 3 months to correct and the FDA said the delay is from their ongoing “extended testing” that has to date not yielded jackshit.

Nor will they say how much longer their extended testing is going to continue? In spite of the fact that they are allowing case basis sales to families with medical situations. How can you not see that their actions are not science based?

This is a grifting operation by a corrupt agency.


68 posted on 05/12/2022 8:49:33 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: laplata

Kinda like what Obammy did with ammo....


69 posted on 05/12/2022 8:50:10 AM PDT by soozla (Truth prevails, regardless of who is willing to accept it ~ now or later. )
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To: algore

Yep....probably getting closer to the truth right here..................https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2022/05/biden-sending-baby-formula-pallets-to-illegals-as-border-patrol-agents-struggle-to-get-it-for-their-own-kids-video/?utm_source=right-rail-latest


70 posted on 05/12/2022 9:00:52 AM PDT by soozla (Truth prevails, regardless of who is willing to accept it ~ now or later. )
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To: soozla

That’s a good reminder.


71 posted on 05/12/2022 9:07:39 AM PDT by laplata (")
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To: Valpal1

Apparently it isn’t meaningless. Just because it’s not in the production area doesn’t mean it’s safe for employees.

I agree it should not take 3 months to correct. That’s on Abbott.

I don’t see how anybody can read these two and not see this is ALL 100% on ABBOTT:
The FDA - which said it found food safety violations at the plant, as well as five strains of Cronobacter, a bacteria that can cause blood infections and meningitis - has refused to say when the plant can resume operations.

Abbott claims they are ‘working closely with the FDA to restart operations’ at the plant, with the spokesperson noting: ‘We continue to make progress on corrective actions and will be implementing additional actions as we work toward addressing items related to the recent recall’.

They admit the problems exist. And they admit they’re working to fix them. This is a company that did a bad job managing their facility. How can you not see that? THEY SAID IT.


72 posted on 05/12/2022 9:10:14 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: discostu

Boilerplate because they have other medical products in the FDA approval process. Are they supposed to announce that some dipstick is insisting on continued testing of warehoused products after months of negative results?

This is a hostage negotiation.

Abbot’s most recent press release was that it will take two weeks to get the production line up to speed and 6-8 weeks for product to hit the shelves after they get the FDA release.


73 posted on 05/12/2022 9:28:09 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: Valpal1

Sorry but you’re just making crap up with ZERO evidence.

I shave everyday with Occam’s Razor, as should we all. The simplest solution is right there in the text:
There were problems with the plant
The FDA found them
They’re working on fixing them

ANYTHING beyond that is conspiracy nonsense. And that’s my last word on this. Blather more if you want, I’m done.


74 posted on 05/12/2022 9:30:56 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: discostu

The FDA press release specifically mentioned the extended testing as the reason for the delay.

Abbott uses boilerplate to avoid saying anything negative.

FDA authorizes emergency releases of product currently on hold, but still not authorizing restart pending further testing.

Abbott still using boilerplate to avoid saying anything negative but says they can be at full blast in two weeks and shipping product in 6-8 weeks.

Public pressure is mounting.


75 posted on 05/12/2022 9:53:04 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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