Posted on 05/09/2022 8:07:06 AM PDT by rlmorel
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In the documentary, they used two different bars that had to be crossed to determine if someone was a mule:
The highest, and most restrictive bar specified that a user had to pass the site of at least one Non-Profit, and pass up to 10 ballot drop boxes. In this scenario, assuming those ballots were for Leftist candidates and discounting those ballots (a valid assumption) resulted in a Trump win.
If they lowered the bar and specified that a user had to pass the site of at least one Non-Profit, and pass up to 3 ballot drop boxes, this scenario, (again, assuming those ballots were for Leftist candidates and discounting those ballots) resulted in a Trump landslide.
They make the point repeatedly that it doesn’t take a lot of votes to swing an election, it takes a smaller number of votes in the right places to do so.
Yep. The excuses or reasons for the cheating is so ridiculous. They would be better off just saying the video is not true. It’s debunked and made up.
Of course they will. What is in question is, will their untruthful obstinance overpower our love of what this country has stood for and cause us to give up?
Personally, their bald-faced lying makes me less likely to get tired of their lies and more likely to keep pursuing a positive outcome for our country.
Indeed, nothing may come from it, but it won’t be because I gave up.
They have all of this ping evidence, as well as videos. They need to produce air-tight evidence that the same person went from drop box to drop box, and that the pings correlate. If they can demonstrate this for just a few of the “mules”, it will blow the dam wide open. Otherwise, I wasted $20 watching this.
I agree that one can reach that logical conclusion, and it is disheartening.
But we already know that a huge number of Republicans just love their Chinese cash, or don’t want to be involved in the controversy wishing to sail along quietly, doing nothing and feeling important.
That is indeed disconcerting.
Why are we having a discussion about illegal voting?
We are having this discussion because the data, drop boxes, illegal vote money by Zuckerberg, bribery, no signature verification, more ballots than people in counties, and 95% of Nursing home patients who voted in Wisconsin. Most importantly, and illegal in every state, was the Ballot Trafficking (taking the drop boxes to DNC headquarters/DNC persons) before going to be counted or like Milwaukee werein they just let the DNC operatives in with the voting boxes unsupervised.
THAT IS WHY!!
Bottom line, NOBODY with a brain believes we have secure elections. True to the Vote doesn’t have to demonstrate that the cheating mattered. They only needed to demonstrate, LIKE IN WISCONSIN, and IN GEORGIA, that there was obvious ‘irregularities’ and that those ‘irregularities’ are consistent over multiple States. That’s ORGANIZED CRIME. Bi-partisan or NOT.
While it’s a State’s right to run elections, it’s not a state right to cheat the public in an election. The SCOTUS denied a lawsuit between states about voter fraud, an ORIGINAL JURISDICTION case, because they don’t want to get involved politically. Having your vote counted, and matter, is the CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE OF OUR TIME.
If we don’t see a massive sweep up of these felons (assuming this data is confirmed by law enforcement) in addition to massive changes in our “mail in ballot” handling we might as well not bother to ever vote again.
“Indeed, nothing may come from it, but it won’t be because I gave up.”
Me, as well!
The absolute false information and lies are not targeted at people like you and me. It’s the other 60% to 90% of the people who buy the lies hook, line, and sinker.
Those people spend their time tuned into the echo chamber which is mass media and their brains become rewired. They believe the information they hear and see to be the only truth and the final word (CNN, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, NYT, WAPO, etc). And then, they protest, vote, and act accordingly. That’s exactly how it works. It is not us — it’s those people who make up the majority of our population.
Anyone who disbelieves this should go out and proclaim to five random people why vaccines don’t work as we were told, why Trump was right about this country or that Russia has not destroyed our country — it is our so-called leaders.
The propagandist do all of this for one good reason. It works.
I haven’t seen it yet. By shining a spotlight on it I would think those that are guilty would be a little nervous. Maybe just enough that they will be afraid to do it again.
Despite their biases, the fact checkers are correct but they are indicting the film for failing to prove a legally sufficient case when the film set out to make a compelling political and practical argument. One cannot look at the movie without drawing the conclusion that the shenanigans documented are so egregious that the vote count was unfair.
Rather than litigate every point it should be enough that every reasonable viewer would conclude that the election was stolen. For example, the fact checkers say that there is no evidence that the stuffed ballots were illegally dropped for Biden. Proving whom illegal ballots were cast for should not be required. It should be enough to know that improper ballots, even for unknown candidates, were counted in sufficient numbers to overturn the result. Therefore, the election should not stand because the process is so tainted that it loses legitimacy. The test is not whether the count is objectively reversed, the test is whether regular form was violated to an extent potentially sufficient to reverse the count.
Even if one accepts this contention, the problem of finding a court that would accept jurisdiction, that would acknowledge standing of the litigants, and one that would find that the remedy of setting aside the election is even available, is a very long shot.
Although it is unlikely that there will be any satisfactory legal ruling emerging nevertheless Dinesh D’Souza has rendered a very great service in pursuit of fair elections, voter motivation and fundraising.
This is a movie not a legal document and should be judged as such.
Each phone has a unique identifier (I presume what is known as a MAC address for the phone or the network/cellular interface, and that is captured by legal, civilian organizations who sell the data to law enforcement.
So, using that, they can tell it is the same person. In summary, they can track an individual (not knowing who it is) over time, with location data. Here is a gif from the documentary that illustrates what they did tracking the movements of just one (ONE!) mule:
What makes this powerful are three things all on one unique cellphone:
Remarkable. And this is just ONE mule. They weren't going out at 2 AM for ice cream for their pregnant wife. They weren't going to work. They weren't going to a friend's house. They weren't on a joy ride. They were taking the most efficient route, probably with their GPS calculating it for them, and they went to places where the ONLY reason they would go there was to a ballot drop box.
Good to hear from you, nathanbedford!
It is clearly NOT a legal document. What it is...is a cudgel for the American citizenry who care to prod someone with a conscience or care to LOOK at the issue, which has NOT been done.
"...The "2,000 mules" trailer begins with an out of context clip of Joe Biden talking before the election about pulling together "the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics." Biden was describing a project to help people learn where and how to vote legally, but the trailer falsely frames his quote as an admission to election fraud..."
Any thinking person (granted, there are many who are not including those at Politifact) would say "Oh sure. I know he was trying to say "...Voter Fraud Prevention organization in the history of American politics..." but I see the point of what he was doing as a documentary producer..."
D'Souza was (in my opinion) completely justified to use that verbal gaffe as a prop for his documentary.
That was one of the things I didn’t much like.
Most people realize, as you do, what he intended to say but messed-up in the usual Biden way.
But there are some - even here - who believe he meant and intended to say exactly what he did - that he admitted to fraud and flaunted it.
I think if they were going to use it, some statement of the irony of this gaffe would have been a good idea.
My belief is that it was one of those Freudian slips he is so famous for.
And boy, is he famous for those.
I know how it friggen works. The evidence they have put forth so far is not irrefutable. LE is not going to take this ball and run with it. They have to prove the case beyond a shadow of a doubt before anyone will act on it. That is not fair, but it is the way things are right now. If they have the evidence they claim to have, let them document stop by stop video and pings correlated together. Otherwise it gets poo-pooed by the legacy media and it just fades into the mist.
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