Posted on 05/08/2022 5:35:51 PM PDT by AmericaFirst101
The port city of Kherson and its surroundings in southern Ukraine, one of the first regions to come under Russian occupation, is increasingly showing signs of what the Kremlin has in mind: long-term control.
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The region is gradually being cut off from information coming from the rest of Ukraine. Last weekend, as it was plagued by internet and cell service outages, major Russian state TV channels, one of the main media of Kremlin propaganda, started broadcasting there.
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Moves like the introduction of the ruble and connection outages amount to “consolidation of the occupation” in the region, said Volodymyr Fesenko, a Ukrainian political analyst. “It’s another reminder that Russia is not going to give these territories back to Ukraine.”
It is all lent greater urgency by warnings from Ukraine and its allies that Russia plans to stage a sham referendum that could lay the groundwork for Moscow to formally enforce its rule, either by turning the region into a “people’s republic” akin to the eastern Ukrainian breakaway territories Russia already controls or even by annexing the area directly, as it did the nearby Crimean Peninsula in 2014.
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Once Crimea was taken in 2014, it has stayed in Russia's control.
Pretty much the way it’s going now. Too bad Ukraine didn’t take the deal that was offered (which was basically locking in the status quo before the war, but without the Azovs or NATO crap).
I do know one thing when you look at the public celebrations on YouTube of the establishment of their two puppet Peoples Republics states (Donetsk / Lugansk) that they set up, it’s all hammers and sickles, and Soviet flags and statues and posters of Joe Stalin it just makes me sick and disgusted to my stomach
It’s going to be interesting to see if Ukraine will be able to take these areas back. For now, I’m guessing “no”.
Once Russia digs in, they are likely going to be hard to displace.
Yeah I’m not a fan of USSR/communist symbols myself.
I guess the concept is to make the people of these areas recall the “unified” times when Russia and Ukraine were on the same side.
In these areas where Russia is currently occupying, there are many ethnic Russians and Russian-speaking people. Not so much the case in northern and western ukraine.
Good. No hammers or sickles.
It's fugly, imo.
Agree, Russia is not about to give them up, as they’ll just have to fight for them again in the future.
And they’re at least half Russian speaking in those areas, so they’ll have plenty of help on the ground.
Sadly, any place that calls itself a “People’s Republic” is probably neo-Soviet in orientation, no matter what the flag looks like.
Russian National Guard members hold a replica of the so-called Victory Standard before raising it at the Alley of Fame in Kherson, Ukraine, last month.
Oh, there will be agitation and resistance. Since Russia began the war with the territorial acquisitions I always thought that the west would try to play out a long-term “USSR/Afghanistan” insurgency strategy.
I’d have to read up on how things looked after the Crimea appropriation in 2014, but I’m pretty sure there was a counter-move against the annexation. Here’s some discussion of discontent that was stirring at the time. Article from 2014:
Still, Russia kept control.
If there weren’t some Russians in these areas (for example, I think Mariupol is like half ethnic Russian), or Russian speakers, I think Russia would be doomed. Then it is USSR/Afghanistan.
But because there may be some natural affinity in these spots, I think Russia has a better chance of long-term success.
We just have to see how things play out. I don’t think anything will happen rapidly.
Yep
That could very well be true
Not a fan, for sure
“And they’re at least half Russian speaking in those areas,
so they’ll have plenty of help on the ground.”
So what? There were English speakers on both sides in 1776 and 1812 here in North America. A common language does not necessarily equate to friendship or allegiance.
The thing is, Lenin despised all forms of Russian Nationalism.
“So what? There were English speakers on both sides in 1776 and 1812 here in North America. A common language does not necessarily equate to friendship or allegiance.”
Oh well, if they don’t like it, they can leave.
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