You are just pushing the approved line of your government propaganda contradicting whatever fact on the ground.
I realize that the notion is that Russia - bad, Russians do not deserve any rights reserved to other groups and so on.
If it is religious on your part then there is no subject for discussion, but you shouldn’t expect Russians or any reasonable people to accept it because there is nowhere to retreat anymore.
More so, your position contradicts whatever value your society allegedly represents. Why should the Russians accept the idea that the Americans have the right to security but they do not? Or that other groups have rights to their culture and religion but the Russians don’t? You are free to preach this crap to your choir.
You are just pushing the approved line of your government propaganda contradicting whatever fact on the ground.
***I don’t see you providing ANY facts. And I don’t GAF what the guvmint says or does. I make up my own mind based on the facts on the ground. And those facts are simple: Russia INVADED. DUHH. Gigantic fracking [literally] duhh factor, because they are after the oil & gas rights control and the warm water ports. It is a straightforward conquest invasion, with bullsnot justification that guys like you are buying into hook, line, and sinker.
I realize that the notion is that Russia - bad, Russians do not deserve any rights reserved to other groups and so on.
***I do not reserve the right to invade to any other group, any other nation, especially when it’s over oil/gas/ports like when Saddam invaded. And an international coalition kicked his ass back to Iraq. Now it’s Pootypoot’s turn, I doubt he will survive his own internal political processes of long knives.
If it is religious on your part then there is no subject for discussion,
***Where do you come up with this nonsense? Every single putinista comes up with some sideways justification. It’s amazing. You overlook the obvious and then bring in side note bullsnot as your main point. You might as well just not even bother because your points are thoroughly repudiated.
but you shouldn’t expect Russians or any reasonable people to accept it because there is nowhere to retreat anymore.
***I know there’s nowhere for you to retreat because you are morally vacant.
More so, your position contradicts whatever value your society allegedly represents.
***No it doesn’t. Even your side acknowledges it was right to denuke the Ukes. You should start there. But you don’t because you approach this whole thing in an a priori fashion, your mind is already made up.
Why should the Russians accept the idea that the Americans have the right to security but they do not?
***I kinda like this line of reasoning because we could use it to invade Mexico and set up a 100 mile buffer zone to interdict illegal colonizers and the narco state drug traffic. But you and I know that no uniparty Biden/Bush/Bullsnot administration will ever do this, even though it’s the right thing. Intervening on an invasion where nukes have already been relinquished as proof of positive intention is the right thing to do in Ukraine.
Or that other groups have rights to their culture and religion but the Russians don’t?
***Russia’s right to culture ends at the borders that Russia signed. Your right to swing your fist ends at my face.
You are free to preach this crap to your choir.
***You are free to keep morally degrading into an orc.