Posted on 05/06/2022 10:14:24 AM PDT by BeauBo
After the dramatic sinking of the missile-cruiser Moskva by a Ukrainian missile battery on April 14, the Russian Black Sea Fleet is down to just three major surface combatants. The best and most important of them might be the new missile-frigate Admiral Makarov...
Commissioned in 2017, Admiral Makarov is the third, last and most modern vessel in her class. All three of the Admiral Grigorovich-class frigates belong to the Black Sea Fleet. Armed with 24 Buk medium-range surface-to-air missiles and eight Kalibr cruise missiles, all in vertical cells, the frigates can escort other vessels and also attack targets on land.
Admiral Makarov and her sisters are not big ships. Displacing just 4,000 tons of water and accommodating 200 crew, they’re less than half the size of the U.S. Navy’s main surface combatants, the Arleigh Burke-class destroyers.
But the frigates are about as big as Russia can make a non-nuclear surface combatant these days, for reasons that—ironically—have everything to do with the current war. Throughout the Soviet era and for years after the USSR’s collapse, Russia acquired its big marine engines from Ukraine.
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Nice details.
They have that problem, where getting close enough to shoot, means getting close enough to get shot.
The war may be transitioning into a period of grinding stalemate on a few fronts, including Naval operations.
On second thoughts, those aircraft tracks were likely just monitoring from a safe distance away, not near the actual vessel that was struck.
It might just be the one ship.
“It’s not a problem for the United States”
If people want to get hysterical about “WWIII”, then obviously they are talking about the United States. Russia nuking Ukraine would not be WWIII by any stretch of the imagination.
“The stupid is strong in this one.”
Says the person who hurls insults because they can’t actually form a counter-argument.
We were able to beat a bunch of Afghanis, but we couldn’t get them to cooperate with each other. They were too separated into various, often conflicted tribes, and there were too many warlords committed to running their own little patch. Also political corruption was endemic, and religious traditions were several centuries in the past.
We should have employed my emBASEee strategee. from my home page
I have been advocating for several years a policy I call ‘embaseees’. Embassy + AirBase —> EmBASEeees. We go into a terrorist country, clear out their taliban equivalent, then withdraw to very large Embassies, perhaps 3 of them. Have them big enough to encompass a military airbase where we can use it for decades on end to conduct anti-terrorism operations. As long as the ‘host’ country aint killing Americans then we let them have self-sovereignty. Kind of like how we operated in the Phillipines for decades. We could even have an intermediate zone that we patrol but it would be autonomous. Let them have their taste of freedom. A referendum every 10 years to see how large the boundaries of the intermediate autonomous zone should be.
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Read what you wrote a few times and see if a little light bulb doesn't go off in your head.
If you have a criticism, go ahead and post it, don’t be cryptic and pretend you’re actually making an argument.
You literally made the point of MUTUALLY ASSURED DESTRUCTION, or MAD, which has kept the superpowers from destroying the world up until now. Then mocked it and their reasoning.
You think that allowing Russia to invade any country and take whatever they want with no opposition equals “MAD”? What kind of lunatic take is that?
I think that if you feel that strongly against what Russia is doing, you should go over there and help the Ukrainians. I don’t say that in any facetious manner. I do hope it would be in a more humanitarian way than not. Got to go.
Sinking a US aircraft carrier is nearly impossible.
So you don’t actually have an explanation of why you think allowing Russia to invade it’s neighbors and take whatever it wants equals the “MAD” policy. Got it.
“Try to Google, lamebrain.”
You’ve been caught emoting like a 12 yr old girl over completely false news reports.
How does it feel?
“See #47. Now who am I to believer, random internet person on a chat forum or my lying eyes?”
You chose to believe your lying eyes.
Your emotions tell you what to believe.
Yet to see anything saying it wasn’t hit yet. It’s possible this landing one was the 2nd one that was rumored to be hit on the same day, if that’s what you’re referring to. You don’t have any links or anything to show what you’re talking about so far.
Re: The Russian Frigate ‘Admiral Makarov’ Might Be The JuiciestNo cajones [FReepmail], but amazing how astute you are.
From MplsSteve | 05/09/2022 8:54:00 AM PDT repliedF**k off, a**hole
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Close, but no cigar.
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