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To: pierrem15

“Sovereign means you don’t annex territory for yourself, not that the regime has impunity to do what it wants...”

There you go. Make up the rules to suit your narrative.

Who, exactly, gets to make the decision when “do what you want” is over the line? Who gives the US and NATO that right? (mostly the US). Hell, we can’t even run our own country much less someone else’s!

Let’s face it. Japan invaded China and slaughtered and raped an entire population, Mao killed millions, Stalin killed millions, Cuba confiscated all private property and imprisoned innocent politicians and Venzeuala nationalized US companies. That’s just a shortlist. In all those situations they “did what they want” with impunity.

So, your new made up rule does not hold water. Especially, when you consider that two regions of Ukraine declared independence. So, Ukraine is guilty of invading an independent territory in the east.

How about the rule that says the Soloman Islands get to decide if the CCP is allowed to install a military base? And the collective west throws a hissy fit. Pretty much the same scenario that Ukraine planned to do with NATO. Where is the rule that covers that??

Please try another argument that makes sense.


61 posted on 05/02/2022 12:44:13 PM PDT by icclearly
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To: icclearly
No one except Russia recognizes the rump "republics" in the east of Ukraine. The non-Serb parts of the former Yugoslavia were recognized almost immediately as independent states.

Everyone complained about Russia pounding Chechnya, but no one did anything. Chechnya was not recognized as an independent state. Bosnia was, and the Serbian government was clearly supporting the the massacres there.

Kosovo was however a recognized part of Serbia, and its independence was not recognized until 2008. So you have a better argument regarding Kosovo.

65 posted on 05/02/2022 12:59:51 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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