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1 posted on 04/29/2022 7:15:45 PM PDT by elpadre
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more of editorial:

“...Imagine if the U.S. president were still named Donald Trump. He probably would have quit NATO long ago and left it up to others to respond to Putin’s aggression. A shake-up in Europe would have suited him just fine. Putin would have celebrated one success after another because Europe wouldn’t have been able to act as resolutely as the U.S. is right now....”

As I recall Trump was calling upon NATO to become stronger and be more assertive and for the US to take a lesser role. Europeans should take the lead in European problems with the US only in a supportive role. To do that they were being asked to contribute more.


2 posted on 04/29/2022 7:19:57 PM PDT by elpadre (W)
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I think Germany and France should definitely play a major role in resisting Russian aggression. Unfortunately, Germany has become rather pacified, and France...well, France is kind of like the Ents: It will show up years after the fight has ended.


5 posted on 04/29/2022 7:35:04 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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The Germans decided to take advantage of the end of the cold war and DEEPLY cut their armed forces across the board. At the present time the army has 328 tanks, 3874 APVs, 400+ artillery tubes, 121 self propelled guns and 38 MLRS according to one site I looked up. They are barely able to defend themselves. There’s a lot of re-arming needed to have a credible defense. This probably applies to many NATO countries in the EU.


6 posted on 04/29/2022 7:41:10 PM PDT by tony549 (Stuck in SoCal)
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“The United States is choreographing the anti-Russian policies in this war. It is setting the pace in arms deliveries, “

Soros/Schwab/WEF U.S.proxy war v Russia.


7 posted on 04/29/2022 7:52:48 PM PDT by A strike (The DeepState/Uniparty doesn't only hate Trump, they hate US)
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The terrible life of the Crimea people under brutal Russian occupation that you no doubt heard about. We better send the Geman tanks in there and liberate those poor souls.

The Ukrainian people also made the mistake of electing a pro Russian president in 2014, but the United States saw fit to overthrow that election to make things better.

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Life Inside Putin’s Crimea

9 posted on 04/29/2022 8:36:05 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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WWIII


10 posted on 04/29/2022 9:36:12 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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There doesn’t need to be a Russia deterrent. Russia only cares about Russia and Russians. That may include Russians in former Russian territories. Note I didn’t say Soviet.

NATO needs to be abandoned. It should have been in the 1990s.

-SB


12 posted on 04/29/2022 10:00:38 PM PDT by Snowybear ( )
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I’m starting to get the impression the WEF might ne behind the idiotic push to more sanctions and war, knowing it will devastate economies and lead to mass starvation.

Dairy in the US is up 90% in a year. Ninety Percent. Almost doubled. Other countries will be a lot worse, soon.

After covid killed economies, remember, the WEF said it’s a good thing, and will help usher in The Great Reset.

So will wars and sanctions on the biggest food and energy producers in Europe.

Who gains???


14 posted on 04/29/2022 11:42:39 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Putin is behaving rationally.The war is on Biden and Obama. )
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RE: Germany and France Must Drive Effort for Credible Deterrent Against Russia

Forget Germany. They’re still enriching Putin’s coffers by buying Russian oil and gas. They’ve also decomissioned their nuclear power plants. They can’t do without importing from Russia.


19 posted on 05/02/2022 5:53:02 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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