Posted on 04/27/2022 9:30:53 AM PDT by marshmallow
The United Nations secretary-general travelled to Moscow on Tuesday to meet with Russian officials, including President Vladimir Putin and Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. The Ukraine crisis was the central focus of discussions.
Russia has not turned away from negotiations with Ukraine and continues to hope that a lasting peace agreement can be reached, President Vladimir Putin has said. "Notwithstanding the fact that the military operation is underway, we still hope that we will be able to reach agreements on the diplomatic track as well. We are holding talks, we are not giving up on them", Putin said, speaking to UN chief Antonio Guterres.
"Furthermore, at the talks in Istanbul [on 29 March]...we managed to reach a rather significant breakthrough, because our Ukrainian colleagues did not tie demands for international security guarantees with such issues as 'Ukraine's internationally recognised borders'. Crimea, Sevastopol, and the Russia-recognised Donbass republics were left out, albeit with certain reservations", he added.
Unfortunately, the Russian president said, after these agreements were reached, and after Moscow demonstrably took steps for talks to continue, including by withdrawing troops from areas around Kiev and Chernigov, "we were met with the provocation in the settlement of Bucha, which the Russian Army has nothing to do with". "We know who did this, we know who planned this provocation, what resources and people were involved", Putin stressed.
Consequently, he said, "the position of our negotiators with Ukraine shifted radically".
Putin pointed out that Ukraine is now demanding peace talks at the level of the heads of state - i.e. between himself and President Zelensky, to discuss issues including the status of Crimea and Donbass. "To us, it's obvious that if these questions are brought to the level of the heads of state, without having been agreed ahead of time, at least in draft.......
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“our Ukrainian colleagues”
He called them “colleagues” ? I thought they were Nazi scum.
The problem with starting a war is any country can START a war. But the other side has to end it. They can surrender. They can lose. Or, they can just keep it going and going for as long as they can last...like North Vietnam. But the guy who starts it doesn’t necessarily have any say on when it ends.
Well, come on, Putin! Don't keep us on tenterhooks! Spit it out!
Who is responsible for the atrocities of Bucha?
Regards,
If Z meats P, Mr. Z will suffer an attack of poison shortly after leaving the room.
Ok, here are the steps that Russia needs to take to end the crisis:
Step 1: Order your troops back to Russia where they belong.
Another dishonest dispatch from PNN. (Putin News Network)
“But the guy who starts it doesn’t necessarily have any say on when it ends.”
Except when he does, as Putin does, since he can just order his troops to go back to Russia and there is about zero threat that Ukraine would want to pursue them onto Russian soil.
“The enemy always gets a vote” (presuming there are any left alive).
Obviously, it was a mass suicide event because the people of Bucha were so distraught to see their Russian saviors abandoning them when the troops withdrew.
/sarc
Things FR largely misses:
1) The east border of Donbas (EAST BORDER) is less than 100 miles from Volgograd (used to be called Stalingrad). It is at the chokepoint of the Volga River. On and along that river travels 4 million barrels of oil per day, north to Moscow from the Caspian for distribution. Not all of that oil is Russian, but it still travels through Russia. There was never any imaginable way NATO could be allowed that close. That’s 4% of world supply.
2) This is the first war in the history of mankind that saw both sides with superb satellite recon. Troops can’t move, and materiel can’t move without being detected.
3) The Ukrainian generals were Russian military academy classmates of the Russian generals. They all studied the same tactics. They all know the eventual outcome.
4) Nearly everything you hear about what goes on there is propaganda. Only when you hear of something confirmed by both sides is there a chance of truth. Any time you do not hear confirmation from both sides, odds near 100% it is false.
5) In 40 years, the only reliable information about this war will be who won. “History is a set of lies agreed upon.” — Napoleon Bonaparte.
3)
“Notwithstanding the fact that the military operation is underway, we still hope that we will be able to reach agreements on the diplomatic track as well. We are holding talks, we are not giving up on them”, Putin said, speaking to UN chief Antonio Guterres.
Putin engaging in aggressive negotiations.
#3 The Ukrainians spent time with us and have adopted some of our tactics.
Turkey has blocked Russian ships from getting
into the Ukraine ports by sea, and now Turkey
is blocking Overflights over their territory.
So Russia is going to run out of supplies.
Ukraine is now getting daily re-supplies and
heavy and advance gear from at least a dozen countries.
Lots of modern howitzers drones, anti airplane
weapons, more armour . So in a week Ukraine
should be kick butt.
Turkey has blocked Russian ships from getting
into the Ukraine ports by sea, and now Turkey
is blocking Overflights over their territory.
So Russia is going to run out of supplies.
Ukraine is now getting daily re-supplies and
heavy and advance gear from at least a dozen countries.
Lots of modern howitzers drones, anti airplane
weapons, more armour . So in a week Ukraine
should be kick butt.
“Except when he does, as Putin does, since he can just order his troops to go back to Russia and there is about zero threat that Ukraine would want to pursue them onto Russian soil.”
I think Putin is shocked at how things are going, and he’d like a graceful exit. But anything resembling losing would not be acceptable. The problem with being the guy in charge is that when things go wrong there’s nobody else to blame. And things couldn’t possibly have gone worse than they have here. Unless they lose a few nukes. That would be worse...
The problem with starting a war is any country can START a war. But the other side has to end it. They can surrender. They can lose. Or, they can just keep it going and going for as long as they can last...like North Vietnam”
You left out an option. Beat the crap out of or blow to smithereens the attacking country.
“Well, come on, Putin! Don’t keep us on tenterhooks! Spit it out!
Who is responsible for the atrocities of Bucha?”
Sure. It was Ukraine as subsequent information has shown. Lies. Just like the brave Ukes on Snake Island that died (NOT) or the Uke missile that bombed the railway station.
Excellent propaganda you got there Zelenskyy. You should be an actor. Oh, excuse me. You are!
“Ignore the “ Man Behind the Curtain”
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